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    On the suggestion of Omar I am making this thread.

    Currently there are a number of words that are 'unsayable' and will resort in a mute and or ban.

    A mild list of such words would include the f word, the r word, the n word, the a word, the t word, and the other alphabetical words of abuse glorious rune-servians wish to give each other.

    At the end of the day we are all adults here. And if you aren't, you probably shouldn't be allowed to chat freely with other members on discord, who may expose them to harmful content like being a furry.

    Argument one: "Liberals don't like free speech" - Fisk

    Members are not free to discuss themselves in a manner which is fitting of a free, constitutional society, one where freedom of expression is guaranteed. By suppressing members you are creating an environment of extremism where this kind of behaviour is pushed backdoors to the dark sections of the DMs.

    Argument two: "We're all cunts here" - Luke132 probably

    Members often express themselves in friendly but otherwise abusive terms and in a way that is fitting for their personality. Not everyone is a liberal progressive. Some members are transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexist, disablist, Islamophobic, bigoted and or capitalistic. This is just part of who they are, and by suppressing their use of language you are not encouraging them to change their views in any way.

    Argument three: "You're all saddos, go play cod" - Purehit

    Members come here because of runescape but not always to talk about it. Spam is an outlet where people (we aren't quite sure yet) can do things other than runescape. It keeps the other sections free for serious academic discussion of the game.
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    I disagree. Using harmful slurs that may visibly or invisibly affect the mental wellbeing of others is always something that should be taken into consideration. Feel free to chat with whoever you'd like in whatever manner in your private messages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mieky View Post
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    I have a lot of words for you rn but none of them are unbanned yet lad.

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    I disagree. Using harmful slurs that may visibly or invisibly affect the mental wellbeing of others is always something that should be taken into consideration. Feel free to chat with whoever you'd like in whatever manner in your private messages.
    Explain to me why people are allowed to post ruse code then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Members often express themselves in friendly but otherwise abusive terms and in a way that is fitting for their personality. Not everyone is a liberal progressive. Some members are transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexist, disablist, Islamophobic, bigoted and or capitalistic. This is just part of who they are, and by suppressing their use of language you are not encouraging them to change their views in any way.
    I think that it is worth suppressing said language because it alienates the people it is directed at in a way that more tame insults do not. Being attacked for your ethnicity, gender identity or sexuality, or any other unchangeable quality, surely isn't something you'd like when you're just trying to do some RuneScape development.

    And although these people may not change their beliefs, I would argue that a lot of those things are learned to an extent (e.g., transphobia, for example) rather than inherent in some way. The less hateful rhetoric to go around means future generations are less likely to think that way, regardless of whether or not we "change" these people.
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    Tbh I think retard is the only one worth "allowing". It's not the best term to use obviously but it's so broadly used and taken as normal so there's no reason to act like we have to jump ahead of society on this one. It was normal to say the f slur just a decade ago and now it's extremely frowned upon so let's just let it run its course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar View Post
    I think that it is worth suppressing said language because it alienates the people it is directed at in a way that more tame insults do not. Being attacked for your ethnicity, gender identity or sexuality, or any other unchangeable quality, surely isn't something you'd like when you're just trying to do some RuneScape development.

    And although these people may not change their beliefs, I would argue that a lot of those things are learned to an extent (e.g., transphobia, for example) rather than inherent in some way. The less hateful rhetoric to go around means future generations are less likely to think that way, regardless of whether or not we "change" these people.
    Sure but such talk almost always amounts to harassment when used in that way. A member calling another a ****** as a joke is hardly amounting to hateful rhetoric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Sure but such talk almost always amounts to harassment when used in that way. A member calling another a ****** as a joke is hardly amounting to hateful rhetoric.
    It is a public chat, though, and even if the person it is directed at may not be super offended, some of these words are so offensive that a lot of people might be upset hearing them in general. Again, as mikey said, your DMs are a thing. Private conversations can happen. But in a public chat room, perhaps slurs aren't the best thing in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikan View Post
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    That quote is in relation to a discussion about applying the rules universally. If the rules are enforced they should be enforced for all slurs, not only the selective prejudices of whatever mods hold (do mods think that the rights of people with intellectual disabilities are less serious than people who are gay?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    That quote is in relation to a discussion about applying the rules universally. If the rules are enforced they should be enforced for all slurs, not only the selective prejudices of whatever mods hold (do mods think that the rights of people with intellectual disabilities are less serious than people who are gay?)
    The difference is context. Calling someone a faggot is a directly homophobic insult -- saying "this game is retarded" isn't representing an attack on mentally challenged people. Yeah it's in bad taste but we're a fucking gaming community we don't need to act like we're obligated to provide a safe space for troubled people. Civility is excellent (i.e. the obvious slurs) but there's a line.
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