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    1. Spam should be removed as it's basically the same thing as General.
    2. Serious Discussions should be removed if some of the staff are going to continue treating it as though it's an official debate section with podiums and timed responses. It's for serious topics, in which you wouldn't want people giving troll responses or interfering with, it doesn't have to be a professional discussion every time or else you run the risk of it becoming identical to the former ID&D section we had here. If some of the staff can avoid trying to be heroes, then keep it.
    3. If for some reason the forum integration idea doesn't go as smoothly as planned, consider removing the forum ranks outside of staff ranks (i.e. donator, RM, vet, designer,) except affiliate for obvious reasons. Makes everything look cluttered and aesthetically displeasing. At the very least, make all donor ranks the same colour, and all other usergroups (RM/vet/etc) the same colour.
    4. Consider removing the individual rank sections (as they'll all just be dead) and make one large one for designers/vets/RM.
    5. Consider adding channel rules/rank info/etc. into the "Info" channel.
    6. If the forum integration doesn't work, introduce a "verified" rank in which users must verify their Rune-Server identity (and should have a matching Discord alias) with a staff member to avoid things like impersonation.


    For clarification about the Serious Discussions channel since some staff members are gonna get ass hurt about it:
    "Serious Discussions" could mean me venting because my cat died, or I lost my job, or I need advice on something like buying a car, etc. It doesn't ALWAYS mean "intellectual debate", so either stop treating it that way or remove it.

    Music Channel


    1. Have the music bot play a certain selection of playlists picked by whoever (if possible), and let staff members handle song requests.
    2. Don't allow staff members to totally overrule the ::skip vote by using the ::skip command - instead create a new ::forceskip command in case anyone is playing something inappropriate.


    Rules


    1. Instead of having in depth rules, follow the "don't be an idiot" policy. Calling one another fucking idiots, arguing, roasting, etc. is all in good fun and unless someone is taking it too far (i.e. being an idiot) then staff interference shouldn't be necessary. The Discord channels don't need to be ran in the same way the Shoutbox is in terms of rule strictness and enforcement. Obviously things like blatant racism/sexism/etc. should be fairly restricted. Anybody who needs further explaining on what constitutes idiocy is probably exactly the type of person who shouldn't be using the R-S Discord.
    2. Things like NSFW content, anything malicious, or anything regarding someone's personal information should obviously be restricted.
    3. Affiliates should be allowed to post their respective advertisement links in General exclusively once per hour to coincide with the current Shoutbox rule.
    4. No marketing of any kind outside of the buying/selling channels.


    Moderation


    1. Again, don't try to be superhero mods. Be lax with the rules and let conversations/discussions flow naturally even if there is a degree of turmoil. You don't need to step in and assert your high and mighty powers in every single instance of expletives being thrown around. It doesn't impress anybody.
    2. Consider having staff members exclusively for the Discord channels with pretty restricted permissions (i.e. basically the ability to mute people in text AND voice channels would be nice). This suggestion assumes the activity in the Discord doesn't fade out, so it should be re-considered in 2-3+ weeks time.


    More ideas will be added to each section as the community continues to provide feedback on this thread and elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thakiller View Post

    Music Channel


    1. Have the music bot play a certain selection of playlists picked by whoever (if possible), and let staff members handle song requests.

    Disagree, just incentives people to either not use it, or cater to specific groups of people with similar tastes, there's a skip function that requires a yes vote from >50% of current participating members(or instant for certain ranks) to skip any songs participants dislike, thats enough imo.

    On another note i'd really like to see Nitro emotes available (maybe for certain usergroups as a trial), i understand the reason theyre disabled is to stop any racist/pornographic emotes being made and spammed, but i mean if someones gunna be a dick like that, they can change their pp to something offensive, spam racist text messages/pornhub links etc, people will find a way to troll and disabling nitro emotes is just censoring the masses for fear of a small userbase that will ruin it for everyone. Maybe once the proposed forum integrations done and actions will have sitewide consequences this can be introduced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by substance View Post
    Disagree, just incentives people to either not use it, or cater to specific groups of people with similar tastes, there's a skip function that requires a yes vote from >50% of current participating members(or instant for certain ranks) to skip any songs participants dislike, thats enough imo.
    You could say the same thing about people having to wait 30 minutes for their song request to be played out of a song queue. There's no issue either case because you could just leave and play your own music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thakiller View Post
    You could say the same thing about people having to wait 30 minutes for their song request to be played out of a song queue. There's no issue either case because you could just leave and play your own music.
    Yeah i still think seeing there's a large queue and thinking "oh guess ill listen to my own stuff" is a better option than having to listen to predefined playlists all the time and never being able to request a song (because lets be real which staff member is gonna sit and cater to song requests).
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    Quote Originally Posted by substance View Post
    Yeah i still think seeing there's a large queue and thinking "oh guess ill listen to my own stuff" is a better option than having to listen to predefined playlists all the time and never being able to request a song (because lets be real which staff member is gonna sit and cater to song requests).
    Ideally, it'd be approving or disapproving of a song with a command.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thakiller View Post
    Ideally, it'd be approving or disapproving of a song with a command.
    Still seems like extra hassle for something pretty pointless in my opinion, whats the reasoning for only having predetermined playlists and not letting users choose w.e they wanna listen to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by substance View Post
    whats the reasoning for only having predetermined playlists
    Constantly playing music in the background, a "queue" doesn't need to be continuously refilled especially in instances where nobody feels like refilling the queue, etc. A playlist is much simpler.

    You're never going to satisfy the demands of everyone, with the current system or with the one that I'm suggesting. It's just an idea.

    and not letting users choose w.e they wanna listen to?
    I never said this, you're twisting my idea here. Part of my idea is that song requests would be handled by staff via a command, which would interrupt whatever current playlist is on the go. If users really want to listen to w.e they wanna listen to, they're more than welcome to listen to music on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thakiller View Post
    Constantly playing music in the background, a "queue" doesn't need to be continuously refilled especially in instances where nobody feels like refilling the queue, etc. A playlist is much simpler.
    You're never going to satisfy the demands of everyone, with the current system or with the one that I'm suggesting. It's just an idea.

    I never said this, you're twisting my idea here. Part of my idea is that song requests would be handled by staff via a command, which would interrupt whatever current playlist is on the go. If users really want to listen to w.e they wanna listen to, they're more than welcome to listen to music on their own.
    Fair enough, i can see the merits of each i just personally think its no problem as it is. Rest of suggestions are pretty spot on tho especially re: serious-discussions.
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    Spam should be removed as it's basically the same thing as General.

    I kinda don't mind if it got removed since the SB is already like this, but Discord is just more organized so some people in general probably don't want to see the stupid memes perhaps in general chat.

    Serious Discussions should be removed if some of the staff are going to continue treating it as though it's an official debate section with podiums and timed responses. It's for serious topics, in which you wouldn't want people giving troll responses or interfering with, it doesn't have to be a professional discussion every time or else you run the risk of it becoming identical to the former ID&D section we had here. If some of the staff can avoid trying to be heroes, then keep it.

    Maybe some people do want to have a serious discussion, but it's also hard when you got lots of people thinking they're funny in a chat channel like that. I don't see an issue in it staying either way


    If for some reason the forum integration idea doesn't go as smoothly as planned, consider removing the forum ranks outside of staff ranks (i.e. donator, RM, vet, designer,) except affiliate for obvious reasons. Makes everything look cluttered and aesthetically displeasing. At the very least, make all donor ranks the same colour, and all other usergroups (RM/vet/etc) the same colour.

    I kind of find it pretty cluttered with how it is to mainly with a chat group for every rank, but how the ranks are now I don't see any issues aside from the 3 donator ranks showing. Even if nothing happens, it shows all ranks aside from staff in the online area which doesn't make it look too bad.

    Consider removing the individual rank sections (as they'll all just be dead) and make one large one for designers/vets/RM.

    Would like to see them all removed personally as well, just don't see a point in them as I'm sure the actual sections on these forums barely get used anyways.

    Consider adding channel rules/rank info/etc. into the "Info" channel.

    With forum integration being done the rank info probably wouldn't be needed. Some rules definitely should be shown, even though I'd hope it's obvious to Discord users that all rules apply the same as our forum rules.


    If the forum integration doesn't work, introduce a "verified" rank in which users must verify their Rune-Server identity (and should have a matching Discord alias) with a staff member to avoid things like impersonation.

    Considering we've already managed well with verifying users as of now, I don't see a problem with a verified rank.


    For clarification about the Serious Discussions channel since some staff members are gonna get ass hurt about it:
    "Serious Discussions" could mean me venting because my cat died, or I lost my job, or I need advice on something like buying a car, etc. It doesn't ALWAYS mean "intellectual debate", so either stop treating it that way or remove it.

    You've got a point unless the channel name gets changed to better suit intellectual debates, just to save confusions with others.


    Rules

    Instead of having in depth rules, follow the "don't be an idiot" policy. Calling one another fucking idiots, arguing, roasting, etc. is all in good fun and unless someone is taking it too far (i.e. being an idiot) then staff interference shouldn't be necessary. The Discord channels don't need to be ran in the same way the Shoutbox is in terms of rule strictness and enforcement. Obviously things like blatant racism/sexism/etc. should be fairly restricted. Anybody who needs further explaining on what constitutes idiocy is probably exactly the type of person who shouldn't be using the R-S Discord.

    The shoutbox is already like this for rules anyways, just wouldn't mind if we're slightly more strict on some stuff only because we have more activity in the Discord.

    Things like NSFW content, anything malicious, or anything regarding someone's personal information should obviously be restricted.

    Don't be an idiot policy basically

    Affiliates should be allowed to post their respective advertisement links in General exclusively once per hour to coincide with the current Shoutbox rule.

    I'm sure this rule's already in place I hope, since on the forums affiliates don't have the freedom to post in any section they feel.




    Moderation

    Consider having staff members exclusively for the Discord channels with pretty restricted permissions (i.e. basically the ability to mute people in text AND voice channels would be nice). This suggestion assumes the activity in the Discord doesn't fade out, so it should be re-considered in 2-3+ weeks time.

    Staff members as in people who are active in the Discord, not already apart of the forum staff team? If so it might be tough but there's people around who can be trustworthy, even if these people have the ability to only mute for a couple of hours. I personally don't want to have to moderator the Discord since it's pretty active as it is, so for others to have the ability to help out would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SILLY GOOSE View Post
    Staff members as in people who are active in the Discord, not already apart of the forum staff team? If so it might be tough but there's people around who can be trustworthy, even if these people have the ability to only mute for a couple of hours. I personally don't want to have to moderator the Discord since it's pretty active as it is, so for others to have the ability to help out would be nice.
    It wouldn't be fair to anybody on the staff team if Kevy expected them to moderate a 3rd party application on top of the site as well, which is another decent reason to have Discord exclusive moderators. Generally anybody who is active and not an idiot would be fine as the powers would be extremely limited and you couldn't do any "real" damage.
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