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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mage View Post
    I can understand your point, but lets use Professor Oak as an example. He was banned for making a comment about ReturnOfWild, I spoke to him and he said the reason was 'Spam'.

    To be put amongst serious scammers and other rule breakers for a more petty reason, without other members being able to check what the cause of the ban was for is one of the reasons why I decided to make this thread.
    It's not really any of our business to know why someone was banned. It's easy enough to find the information anyways. And I'm not sure what you're saying about the scamming thing as there's already a system in place that handles that just fine, but I could've misread your post on what exactly you meant.

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    You'd be surprised.
    Don't say I'd be suprised when I've been here more than long enough to know, but thanks for your valued input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zivik View Post
    Don't say I'd be suprised when I've been here more than long enough to know, but thanks for your valued input.
    Obviously not if you believe every ban given out by a moderator is just.
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    In society, It's fairly common practice to request public records if you're the individual. It's not possible to pull public documents without certain authority if you're not the individual. The same concept applies here, unless you are authorized or are the individual, the information should remain protected. The only one that needs to be informed why they're banned is the banned user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zivik View Post
    It's not really any of our business to know why someone was banned. It's easy enough to find the information anyways. And I'm not sure what you're saying about the scamming thing as there's already a system in place that handles that just fine, but I could've misread your post on what exactly you meant.



    Don't say I'd be suprised when I've been here more than long enough to know, but thanks for your valued input.
    That's really what it comes down to, should it be anyone's business as to why a user has been banned. Reputation (not just plain rep/neggings), for better or worse, plays a huge role in this community. Whether it be following someone's project, purchasing someone's services, or just plain listening to what someone has to say. A person's reputation will almost always precede them and effect how readers will respond. It's an integral part of this community. Bans effect that reputation and I think clarification could be an important decider on how a reader of a thread will respond (not necessarily in a positive way, but it helps to make a more well informed reply). Ethos is something that can make or break an argument
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    In society, It's fairly common practice to request public records if you're the individual. It's not possible to pull public documents without certain authority if you're not the individual. The same concept applies here, unless you are authorized or are the individual, the information should remain protected. The only one that needs to be informed why they're banned is the banned user.
    True, but we're talking about a ban reason, not like someone's email address/IP or other information about that user that should remain protected.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure. View Post
    That's really what it comes down to, should it be anyone's business as to why a user has been banned. Reputation (not just plain rep/neggings), for better or worse, plays a huge role in this community. Whether it be following someone's project, purchasing someone's services, or just plain listening to what someone has to say. A person's reputation will almost always precede them and effect how readers will respond. It's an integral part of this community. Bans effect that reputation and I think clarification could be an important decider on how a reader of a thread will respond (not necessarily in a positive way, but it helps to make a more well informed reply). Ethos is something that can make or break an argument
    Reputation on this site is just a number, nothing more and nothing less. In reference to reputation as a general belief, someone being banned just shows they broke a rule. You can tell if the rule was regarding scamming if they're market banned - which is only where it should cloud your judgment. It's not a good idea to do 'business' on r-s anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    In society, It's fairly common practice to request public records if you're the individual. It's not possible to pull public documents without certain authority if you're not the individual. The same concept applies here, unless you are authorized or are the individual, the information should remain protected. The only one that needs to be informed why they're banned is the banned user.
    In some countries, i.e. Norway (and a few other Scandinavian countries), it's possible to find out how much anybody in the country earns (and possibly other records) as it's all public knowledge and allows for more transparency in society.
    In theory there shouldn't be a need for ban reasons (or checking individual's earnings/tax returns) as one would assume society is fair; but in reality people cheat taxes and rune-server users are sometimes banned unjustly.

    Also helps with trusting users after they come back from a ban.

    That being said, I agree with this:
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    You can tell if the rule was regarding scamming if they're market banned - which is only where it should cloud your judgment. It's not a good idea to do 'business' on r-s anyway

    To summarise: Would be cool to have; possibly not needed; either way it won't happen.
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    agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleem View Post
    Reputation on this site is just a number, nothing more and nothing less. In reference to reputation as a general belief, someone being banned just shows they broke a rule. You can tell if the rule was regarding scamming if they're market banned - which is only where it should cloud your judgment. It's not a good idea to do 'business' on r-s anyway
    Scamming is not the only aspect that will deter people from hiring or associating with in business, you would not necessarily want to hire someone for a management level position who has been banned for spamming, flaming, arguing, etc. As for doing business in here yes it is extremely unregulated. Something like this could help people make a more well informed decision in that section of the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mage View Post
    Members have a tendency to make accusations towards banned users
    maybe members should curb their own tendencies then?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Mage View Post
    To be put amongst serious scammers and other rule breakers for a more petty reason, without other members being able to check what the cause of the ban was for is one of the reasons why I decided to make this thread.
    this scenario could be solved by not jumping to conclusions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla View Post
    One issue with showing the ban reason that shows to the banned user is that some mods don't even put proper reasons
    the messages are predetermined on all infractions unless the infraction is customized, which is rare

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