Rune-Server Discord

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

idk what else to tell you.

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That you you're drawing up a lot of conclusions from nowhere? Okay but lets proceed anyway.

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

The solution to years of continued administrator neglect to the website is to say "ah fuck it, let's have a 3rd party way to do the exact same thing people do on the forums!"

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Who said that this was supposed to be some big solution? You're putting words in peoples mouths here. The Discord does not do the exact same thing as the forums and is not a replacement for the forums, its a shoutbox where we don't have to be limited by a lack of features or repressive chat rules that only serve to benefit a very small percentage of the users.

Its much nicer for users to be greeted to this:
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Rather than this:
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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Something something administrators have done nothing for the well-being of the site in many more years than the shoutbox has been dead.

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Got absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand though has it? We have an Admin at the helm now that has been an active user on this site for the entire duration I've been here. You might find it hard to believe, but Kevy isn't that illusive these days either.

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Should we have a Rune-Server subreddit as well? Plenty more features than here!

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Now you're just being facetious, and that's not entirely true.

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I could just as easily spin your argument around to say "R-S has features that you just wouldn't get with Discord". How silly does that sound?

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Vbulletin does have features that Discord can't provide. But you're the one that's drawing this one or the other argument up here, not me. So yes it does sound silly.

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Except the fact that you're finding new ways to divide up the community

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In your opinion. I'm not going to further bite into that argument because we'd both just be drawing from hypothetical scenarios.

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Originally Posted by Josh [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Its much nicer for users to be greeted to this:
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Rather than this:
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"93 online" is not representative of "actively using R-S Discord". That's like having the active users list on Rune-Server count anybody who just has their browser open and not viewing the site specifically. You're considered an online user on Discord if you simply have the application open, not necessarily active on X or Y server.

In fact, the "93 online" statistic is more comparable to the "Active Users" statistic on R-S which is in the many thousands.

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Got absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand though has it? We have an Admin at the helm now that has been an active user on this site for the entire duration I've been here. You might find it hard to believe, but Kevy isn't that illusive these days either.

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Er, how does it not? I'm pointing out why the Discord is a stupid idea and further pointing out how after all these years this is the idea we come up with.

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Now you're just being facetious, and that's not entirely true.

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Absolutely not being facetious. Arguing that we use another platform because it has X more features is a dumb argument. When I made the same argument you did you call it "facetious".

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Vbulletin does have features that Discord can't provide. But you're the one that's drawing this one or the other argument up here, not me. So yes it does sound silly.

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Because we don't need multiple platforms for R-S.

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In your opinion. I'm not going to further bite into that argument because we'd both just be drawing from hypothetical scenarios.

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You're right, but more realistically the Discord dies out in a few weeks tops.

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Originally Posted by Josh [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

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Soz make that 92. It's a nazi community in which everyone has a massive need to control everything. I'm fairly positive I ain't the only person who feels this way here - cannot even bring back a small fucking detail such as the emojis which half the community has asked.

Lol some people just live to argue :D:D

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

It's a nazi community

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cannot even bring back a small fucking detail such as the emojis which half the community has asked.

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lmao what a conclusion you're jumping to. im not enabling custom emojis cos there's no way to prevent people uploading inappropriate images. im not bothered how "half the community" have asked for it, this site isn't ran by mob rule.

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Originally Posted by Scu11 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

lmao what a conclusion you're jumping to. im not enabling custom emojis cos there's no way to prevent people uploading inappropriate images. im not bothered how "half the community" have asked for it, this site isn't ran by mob rule.

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I wasn't asking you to give people the permission to upload images. I was asking to give people the permission to use emojis from other discords. Only nitro users would be able to use emojis from the other discords they're a part of - and even if they do use, these emojis don't become associated to your discord. Other people still won't be able to use these given emojis unless they're part of that same discord and have nitro as well. If used inappropriately, banning the person would remove all their replies (if selected so) along with all the emojis. Your only argument at this point is that some asshole might actually put a small 20x20 px dick emoji in the discord and suddenly it's the end of the world. One person doesn't speak for the entire community. There are a million other things any member of that discord could just as well do, which could have an even more drastical effect. Your solution to that is banning, so my question at this point is - why doesn't this same solution carry over to emojis?
It feels like a completely nazi community. The staff is running it how they want it, completely neglecting what the community wants - is this your forum or the community's? Menth is 24/7 busy deleting peoples shouts in the no-retards (old name) channel, even if they're actually relevant to the channel itself. The rest of the staff is working on figuring out new ways to restrict the members even further. I've been a part of many discords for a long time and I know for a fact it's rare to find someone who'd break the rules. 90% of the occasions during which I've seen rules being broken is when someone advertises something - whether it's a server or a community or whatever else. I have never seen a single person abuse the emojis, but hey, that's just me. What the fuck does one man's opinion matter when you have the whole staff team sitting behind you supporting every move you make, am I right?

PS: This is no rant, it's just a basic feel I've got after spending a while in Rune-Server. It applies to this site just as well, not just the discord.
Probably going to end up being negged to death by some nazi swastika "respected" members who haven't been relevant for a decade.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

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Haven't joined myself yet but I might do at some point, good idea not allowing custom emojis to be fair, it's a nightmare to keep an eye on who's posting what.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I wasn't asking you to give people the permission to upload images. I was asking to give people the permission to use emojis from other discords. Only nitro users would be able to use emojis from the other discords they're a part of - and even if they do use, these emojis don't become associated to your discord. Other people still won't be able to use these given emojis unless they're part of that same discord and have nitro as well. If used inappropriately, banning the person would remove all their replies (if selected so) along with all the emojis.

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To be fair, a lot of the staff aren't omniscient Discord users who are aware of every feature in the book of Discord features known to mankind and a simple suggestion thread explaining the custom emoji shit would have been a much better option than freaking out about it.

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Originally Posted by Scu11 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

im not bothered how "half the community" have asked for it, this site isn't ran by mob rule.

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It's not ran by a dictatorship either. If an idea * is presented by the community and receives a good amount of support, it should totally overrule the select few staff members who say "nah that's dumb" or just refuse to do it because they personally don't want it. You've been here long enough to know how ridiculously common this is (not saying you personally do it), and it'd be a shame if the Discord, assuming it picks up and maintains activity, followed the same footsteps.

* = barring the emoji shit Kris is talking about because all anybody has done is bitch about custom emojis or w.e

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Originally Posted by A Mage [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Pure fun? :hm:
Can't wait to hear 423 Million shout 'luke132' into his mcdonalds mic.

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:luke132:

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

To be fair, a lot of the staff aren't omniscient Discord users who are aware of every feature in the book of Discord features known to mankind and a simple suggestion thread explaining the custom emoji shit would have been a much better option than freaking out about it.

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I've requested this (along with a long list of other users) many times by now. I've explained at least three times why they should do it. I explained how the nitro thing works as I do have it myself. They're so hard-headed it's ridiculous, even if the community thinks otherwise, they still stick to whatever they believe in - despite this being a community forum.

I'm not just bullshitting here and it's not just about the emojis, I expressed how I feel about the staff in general around here, couldn't really care much about the emojis themselves but I do care for the fact that they neglect what people want and think. Truth be told these forums should've changed the staff a long time ago. Someone who doesn't give a shit about what the community is actually made for shouldn't have such a high position, there are loads of members in this community who've proven to be much better choices. The current staff hasn't been relevant to RSPS in a long time (with the exception of.. Stuart; I think he's the only staff member in here who actually does anything related to RSPS at all). Considering the fact that the staff doesn't really do shit related to RSPS, they should at least be able to actively filter through peoples requests... which I think we all know isn't true. Most request threads take over a month to get processed, if you bump that shit your request is completely neglected at all. There are so many reasons why many of the staff members shouldn't be where they are right now. It's a complete tyranny tbh. The worst fact is that the community isn't being refreshened at all. Even the most "recent" staff promotions were just recycled people from the past, no new blood has entered the staff team in a very long time. No one's being awarded any ranks, multiple amazing programmers in this community who're actually active completely neglected (some examples include Cjay0091, Jason - I've never spoken to Jason myself but I've seen his code and he's worthy of the rank IMO).

Not like any of this matters though. It's impossible to dethrone anyone if the entire leadership are just ducks in a row with heads up in eachothers asses. Even if they say stupid shit people will back them up due to the fact they hold such a high position, being completely incapable of having their own opinions.

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

To be fair, a lot of the staff aren't omniscient Discord users who are aware of every feature in the book of Discord features known to mankind and a simple suggestion thread explaining the custom emoji shit would have been a much better option than freaking out about it.



It's not ran by a dictatorship either. If an idea * is presented by the community and receives a good amount of support, it should totally overrule the select few staff members who say "nah that's dumb" or just refuse to do it because they personally don't want it. You've been here long enough to know how ridiculously common this is (not saying you personally do it), and it'd be a shame if the Discord, assuming it picks up and maintains activity, followed the same footsteps.

* = barring the emoji shit Kris is talking about because all anybody has done is bitch about custom emojis or w.e

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There was a suggestion thread posted by [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] and it was deleted.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

The current staff hasn't been relevant to RSPS in a long time (with the exception of.. Stuart; I think he's the only staff member in here who actually does anything related to RSPS at all).

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The role of a moderator is to moderate, not actively participate in RSPS. Stuart or any other staff member being involved in RSPS is completely coincidental and has no correlation on who actually gets promoted, and rightfully so.

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Most request threads take over a month to get processed, if you bump that shit your request is completely neglected at all.

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This was a huge issue I was vocal about (ultimately contributed to my demotion and a new administrator in the grand scheme of things) throughout the entire time I spent as a moderator. This however is irrelevant to the discussion, should probably stick to the Discord side of things, and save this for a different thread. Same goes for the usergroup stuff. Not disagreeing with you, just saying make a new thread because I don't wanna stray off topic from the Discord ideas.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I've requested this (along with a long list of other users) many times by now. I've explained at least three times why they should do it. I explained how the nitro thing works as I do have it myself. They're so hard-headed it's ridiculous, even if the community thinks otherwise, they still stick to whatever they believe in - despite this being a community forum.

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I know full well how Nitro works, but what are you genuinely not getting from our stance on this? We don't want anything inappropriate cropping up and we don't want to encourage emote spam. The Discord is in its very early days, and I wouldn't consider anything to be fully set in stone with it yet. When its fully integrated with the forums and we can verify users automatically, maybe we won't have to play things so cautiously.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

The current staff hasn't been relevant to RSPS in a long time

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This has no relevancy to this thread at all, but I'll answer you anyway. I will also say that some of the issues you've highlighted, you clearly don't have a great understanding of.
Whether any staff are involved in the private server scene or not bares no relevancy on their ability to moderate the forums or be involved with the community. There are several of us that have been involved in the scene to various different extents over the years, so even if involvement in RSPS was some prerequisite to moderate the forums, most of us would be well qualified in that area anyway.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

they should at least be able to actively filter through peoples requests

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Requests related to accounts aren't handled by Moderators. Any requests done through reported posts (threads being moved, thread name changes etc) are handled very quickly.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Even the most "recent" staff promotions were just recycled people from the past, no new blood has entered the staff team in a very long time.

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Obviously trying to have a pop at me here, but that's fine. As for no new blood - Koy, Michael, Menth, and Silly Goose were all new additions. We don't have a high turn over of Moderators, so I'm sorry if that disappoints you.

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

No one's being awarded any ranks, multiple amazing programmers in this community who're actually active completely neglected (some examples include Cjay0091, Jason - I've never spoken to Jason myself but I've seen his code and he's worthy of the rank IMO).

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

this being a community forum.

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Yep, this is a community forum. To be awarded the programmer rank, you're required to submit your work and it will be evaluated by the other members of the programmer group. Has nothing to do with the staff at all.

This doesn't need discussing on here any further. Feel free to shoot me a PM on here or Discord if you want to discuss your concerns, I'll graciously respond to them.

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Originally Posted by Sqay [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

No need for "Thread with the most posts" anymore.

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exactly

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Originally Posted by Kris [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I've requested this (along with a long list of other users) many times by now. I've explained at least three times why they should do it.

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And I've explained why we're not doing it.

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I do care for the fact that they neglect what people want and think.

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If it was neglect we wouldn't have addressed your points at all.

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Truth be told these forums should've changed the staff a long time ago. Someone who doesn't give a shit about what the community is actually made for shouldn't have such a high position,

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Everybody in the staff team cares.

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there are loads of members in this community who've proven to be much better choices.

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No there aren't. If they've "proven" to be good choices then surely we would be "recycling" staff which you're initial complaint is about?

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The current staff hasn't been relevant to RSPS in a long time (with the exception of.. Stuart; I think he's the only staff member in here who actually does anything related to RSPS at all).

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This is irrelevant to their ability to be able to moderate/run the community.

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Considering the fact that the staff doesn't really do shit related to RSPS, they should at least be able to actively filter through peoples requests... which I think we all know isn't true.

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The staff team deals with reports very quickly for volunteers.

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Most request threads take over a month to get processed, if you bump that shit your request is completely neglected at all.

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Misc request threads are literally the least prioritised thing on this forum. They are all cosmetic things that don't take priority over reports/password requests/scam reports/etc. Furthermore, only admins can deal with them.

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There are so many reasons why many of the staff members shouldn't be where they are right now. It's a complete tyranny tbh.

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You haven't listed any.

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The worst fact is that the community isn't being refreshened at all.

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It is not the staff responsibility to "refreshen" the community.

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Even the most "recent" staff promotions were just recycled people from the past, no new blood has entered the staff team in a very long time.

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Why is this an issue? Either they can fulfil the role or they can't. You aren't proving to me what the issue is.

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No one's being awarded any ranks, multiple amazing programmers in this community who're actually active completely neglected (some examples include Cjay0091, Jason -

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The programmer rank is a vote in group that requires a nomination. If an individual has code they wish to submit for nomination they can contact any of the programmers to receive one.

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I've never spoken to Jason myself but I've seen his code and he's worthy of the rank IMO)

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I don't know what credentials you have to make "your opinion" of his code relevant to this discussion, but regardless you aren't part of the programmer rank so you have no influence over who should/shouldn't be in it.

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Originally Posted by Polar [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

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He was responded to in the Discord already.

People use discord instead of the forum.
Close Rune-Server.ee and just convert to a discord server. :L

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Originally Posted by iAmRyan [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

People use discord instead of the forum.
Close Rune-Server.ee and just convert to a discord server. :L

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You cannot replace the forum with Discord.
Forum has 4 million posts which contain resources - tools, snippets, downloads. They cannot be and ever will be moved to Discord.

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Originally Posted by Johnyblob22 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Join now for all your gender debats

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no1 on this entire site is worth having this conversation with cept like 3 people

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Originally Posted by Thakiller [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Stuart or any other staff member being involved in RSPS is completely coincidental and has no correlation on who actually gets promoted, and rightfully so.

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uh no

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Originally Posted by weeping worm [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

uh no

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Uh yes. Mods are chosen based on how administrators think they'll perform as mods, not how good they are at developing Runescape private servers.

When i get banned for making a jew joke but everyone can dog on kaleem. unfair lo

Level of unmoderated racism from RM's/Vets is making discord a cesspool of childishness. If online staff aren't going to even slightly moderate it make some users discord moderators or at least configure some chat filters.

so a 3rd party chat channel ran by non responsible members gets advertised first page..
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Originally Posted by Linus [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

so a 3rd party chat channel ran by non responsible members gets advertised first page..
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what

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Originally Posted by substance [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Level of unmoderated racism from RM's/Vets is making discord a cesspool of childishness. If online staff aren't going to even slightly moderate it make some users discord moderators or at least configure some chat filters.

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lol are you really expecting more

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Originally Posted by Aboo [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

lol are you really expecting more

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yes :)

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Originally Posted by Johnyblob22 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

When i get banned for making a jew joke but everyone can dog on kaleem. unfair lo

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You were kicked not banned

I hated on the Discord at first, but I think it's great for r-s now. The multiple channels allow you to have better/different conversations then you would on the forums/sb and they're simply more active. Voice chat can obviously get annoying depending on who's in it, but other than that it's good.

Well done Kevy and staff.

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Level of unmoderated racism from RM's/Vets is making discord a cesspool of childishness. If online staff aren't going to even slightly moderate it make some users discord moderators or at least configure some chat filters.

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From what I've seen, racism/blatant flame/etc. has all been swiftly removed from text channels. The bots, as multiple staff members have already said numerous times), are being configured as time goes on, and automated chat filters are also really hard to configure correctly. They may frequently remove some content incorrectly, or are otherwise easy to bypass and not reliable. They're good for anti-spam (i.e. repeated symbols, walls of text) but as for blacklisting words, it's totally unreliable. If "nigger" was blacklisted, I could simply bypass it by saying "n1gger", "nigg3r", "nnnniggggeerrr", and other endless possibilities that would be impossible to moderate automatically.

As for voice channels - the only racism I've seen is back and forth racial banter in which both parties were trading jokes/roasts. Also, the 1-3 staff members present didn't feel a need to step in given the circumstances. You also have the option to mute individual users on your own.

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Originally Posted by Linus [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

so a 3rd party chat channel ran by non responsible members gets advertised first page..
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why arent u in your local obituary yet dude

stop arguing and lets all listen to terrible music together

Lets go Discord!

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Originally Posted by BobWise [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Lets go Discord!

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Thanks for tying the noose for me

discord's ugly

i got banned for skipping an admins music and even when i told him i would stop skipping he still banned me with no warning.

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Originally Posted by Teemo. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

i got banned for skipping an admins music and even when i told him i would stop skipping he still banned me with no warning.

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Pretty sure you were an annoying twat and kept spamming shit, which is why you were banned

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Originally Posted by Tesla [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Pretty sure you were an annoying twat and kept spamming shit, which is why you were banned

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I wasn't spamming anything lol, I simply skipped an admin's music and thus got banned.
Anyways the discord is anyways pretty shit with the crappy admins and mods banning you for the dumbest shit.

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Originally Posted by Teemo. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I wasn't spamming anything lol, I simply skipped an admin's music and thus got banned.
Anyways the discord is anyways pretty shit with the crappy admins and mods banning you for the dumbest shit.

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No, I remember you being annoying as fuck. Glad you're banned.

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Originally Posted by Tesla [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

No, I remember you being annoying as fuck. Glad you're banned.

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rofl go discord bots!

you said this would be pure fun :(

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Originally Posted by Luke132 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

you said this would be pure fun :(

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what were u expecting