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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo! View Post
    Or they support scamming. A few pages ago some guy said it's your own dumb fault if you get scammed and you deserve it
    Yeah, sorry it's my fault because I trusted you

    People like that are 12 irl, own **RENT WITH MOMS CC** booters, and know 1337 hax from hackforums...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by User View Post
    Yeah, sorry it's my fault because I trusted you

    People like that are 12 irl, own **RENT WITH MOMS CC** booters, and know 1337 hax from hackforums...
    You seem to hold the idea that users have some level of trustworthiness here and that the staff team should classify people as such. May I remind you that this is just a random place on the internet filled with people you don't know, who can easily fake their personality. No one here is 'trustworthy' and if you make the mistake of trading with someone you perceive as such then it's your fault if you get scammed.

    The only thing the staff does is punish the people that do scam and now, with this method, is trying to prevent scamming in some cases.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvid View Post
    You seem to hold the idea that users have some level of trustworthiness here and that the staff team should classify people as such. May I remind you that this is just a random place on the internet filled with people you don't know, who can easily fake their personality. No one here is 'trustworthy' and if you make the mistake of trading with someone you perceive as such then it's your fault if you get scammed.

    The only thing the staff does is punish the people that do scam and now, with this method, is trying to prevent scamming in some cases.
    You seem to be attempting to justify scammers activity because of the users mistake to trust, without trust in someone this community would not go anywhere as you have to trust someone to develop an rsps with them, which please correct me but that is the ONLY true function of this website or at least it was. So yes Arvid, please go on how nobody here is trustworthy, I know several great people from Rune-Server that I have had a fun and successful time working with on various projects, all whom I trusted first or was trusted first. Your goal as a moderator should be building trust in this community, maybe then people will stop having to watch their backs and be more open to things like contributing work.

    It's not always your fault if you get scammed, if they are selling something to good to be true than yes the blame is partly on you for walking into the obvious trap. That does not mean you can blame everyone who has been the victim of a scam just because they wanted to trust someone and get something done. If nobody here trusted each other then there would be no progress, your attitude towards the situation does not help moral.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by User View Post
    I believe you should be focused on keeping the market section very strict in the department of trust, make things like scamming very serious and do not take it lightly, the idea of an appeal should be out of the question. That will stop people from scamming, at least on any account they value.
    When we had the zero tolerance policy there were still cases of long time users (some of which had a 2006 join date) scamming in the market place, and the problem with zero tolerance is it didn't really solve anything for the user that got scammed, they just simply lost out.
    It was decided a while ago that it would be in the best interests of everyone if the victim could be compensated then the scammer would be allowed back under the conditions of it being a last chance plus a market ban.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by User View Post
    You seem to be attempting to justify scammers activity because of the users mistake to trust, without trust in someone this community would not go anywhere as you have to trust someone to develop an rsps with them, which please correct me but that is the ONLY true function of this website or at least it was. So yes Arvid, please go on how nobody here is trustworthy, I know several great people from Rune-Server that I have had a fun and successful time working with on various projects, all whom I trusted first or was trusted first. Your goal as a moderator should be building trust in this community, maybe then people will stop having to watch their backs and be more open to things like contributing work.

    It's not always your fault if you get scammed, if they are selling something to good to be true than yes the blame is partly on you for walking into the obvious trap. That does not mean you can blame everyone who has been the victim of a scam just because they wanted to trust someone and get something done. If nobody here trusted each other then there would be no progress, your attitude towards the situation does not help moral.
    I didn't justify anything? I even said we punish people who scam and try to prevent it with measures like these. Please read before you start ripping sentences out of their context.

    And YES it IS your fault when you get scammed. Want to know why? Because you are trading on a BLACKMARKET which means you take the risk of trading someone that has bad intentions. That's what a blackmarket is and if you don't want to take that risk then you shouldn't trade on this site.

    Obviously there are people here that can be trusted, what I said was simply to illustrate the mindset you'd have to have before commencing a trade with some user here.

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    without trust in someone this community would not go anywhere as you have to trust someone to develop an rsps with them, which please correct me but that is the ONLY true function of this website or at least it was.
    No it isn't and never has been. You are implying the function of this website is for people to collaborate on a RSPS project with each other. This site just offers a platform for RSPS developers to connect with each other; share tutorials or show off projects. If you decide on collaborating on a project and sharing your RSPS files with someone then that is YOUR choice, and by doing so you should be fully aware that someone might just run off with your project.
     

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    u said we dont support market section

    make up mind pls



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thee Rash View Post
    u said we dont support market section

    make up mind pls
    We don't fully support it no, but we also can't have a section completely barren to rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aj View Post
    We don't fully support it no, but we also can't have a section completely barren to rules.
    so if this role is introduced, there are ripple effects.

    The way vouches are given in this community is terrible. Everyone rides eachothers dicks. 90% are probably not even due to trades. Rules will need to be implemented for that (or just enforce a complete disregard for them - best option IMO). Plus scam reports, etc will need to be handled again.
    Theres more I just cbf thinking.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thee Rash View Post
    so if this role is introduced, there are ripple effects.

    The way vouches are given in this community is terrible. Everyone rides eachothers dicks. 90% are probably not even due to trades. Rules will need to be implemented for that (or just enforce a complete disregard for them - best option IMO). Plus scam reports, etc will need to be handled again.
    Theres more I just cbf thinking.
    Scamming reports ARE handled and vouches ARE disregarded by the mods who handle the reports.. Lol
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