Looking for Partners

Hello Rune-Server.

I am looking for a permanent developer for my project. I do not have a base as of right now, As for payment, I have quite a big budget to invest, but instead of paying you (the developer) I rather pay for the server funds first. I will cover all the costs of this project (Advertisement/Graphics mainly but whatever is necessary). I just need a dedicated and motivated developer creating it. In return, you will receive a % of the server's profit.

As for the work needed, a decent amount of time and effort is required but not too much to burn you off. You can work as much and as least as you want as long as you get the job done in a mannerly time.

For more details please message me on discord stable#3165

Yea, everyone, work for this mans dreams, even though his dreams don’t pay the bills

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Originally Posted by Optimum [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Yea, everyone, work for this mans dreams, even though his dreams don’t pay the bills

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Thank you for your needed comment, keep it to your self.

Stable is an honest and hard working man. Good luck in finding a new partner :)

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Originally Posted by Stable [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Thank you for your needed comment, keep it to your self.

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can’t you see what you’re asking for in return, you’re asking someone to dedicate their time to you and your prophecy. With no salary, only covering the cost of YOUR server.

what if it fails??? The developer spent all his time which is more valuable than money.


sure, you will find a retard to do this, they will last 1 week and create a plethora of problems, an unjustified amount of coding problems for the long run. If anything, you’re doing yourself worse.

pay your developers, your dreams won’t cover their bills.

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Originally Posted by Optimum [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

can’t you see what you’re asking for in return, you’re asking someone to dedicate their time to you and your prophecy. With no salary, only covering the cost of YOUR server.

what if it fails??? The developer spent all his time which is more valuable than money.


sure, you will find a retard to do this, they will last 1 week and create a plethora of problems, an unjustified amount of coding problems for the long run. If anything, you’re doing yourself worse.

pay your developers, your dreams won’t cover their bills.

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I definitely understand your point, but the title clearly says that he's looking for a partner.

As per my definition, a partnership doesn't mean you're looking to piggyback off of someone else's work, but rather put your work in together, looking for an equal outcome. If you've every ran a successful server, you'd know that development is 50% of it (if not less). The rest is branding, marketing & management, which Stable happens to be incredible at doing.

If you’re looking for a motivated, dedicated developer that also does quality work you’re gonna have to pay. You might find 1 of the 3 criterias if you stick to this sort of deal but that’s not gonna be ideal is it. I find it odd you have funding but don’t prioritize development costs?

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If you’re looking for a motivated, dedicated developer that also does quality work you’re gonna have to pay. You might find 1 of the 3 criterias if you stick to this sort of deal but that’s not gonna be ideal is it. I find it odd you have funding but don’t prioritize development costs?

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You're definitely right. You won't find incredible developers looking to work with you (with their pay being a percentage of ownership) unless you have some sort of previous relationship with said developers.

OT: Stable has ran successful servers perviously. Last one hitting over 300 players. Just an FYI.

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Originally Posted by Optimum [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

can’t you see what you’re asking for in return, you’re asking someone to dedicate their time to you and your prophecy. With no salary, only covering the cost of YOUR server.

what if it fails??? The developer spent all his time which is more valuable than money.


sure, you will find a retard to do this, they will last 1 week and create a plethora of problems, an unjustified amount of coding problems for the long run. If anything, you’re doing yourself worse.

pay your developers, your dreams won’t cover their bills.

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I'm sorry to say but you're not making any sense buddy. Have you ever worked with actually knowledgeable people and they know what they're doing and what they are investing their money into? or are you used to people who are just after the money and don't understand the value of a server and their employees and partners.
I know my ways around all types of advertisement, Google, Social Media, Youtube ADS not (YouTubers) and I also have a good relation with each and every YouTuber in the scene. Apparently, you have been working with people who are utterly dumb and brainless if your here to cause issues and drama over nothing. Look man I'm only looking for a partner that is willing to develop and work the technical side of the server. Just let it be and leave your comments out of this thread.

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If you’re looking for a motivated, dedicated developer that also does quality work you’re gonna have to pay. You might find 1 of the 3 criterias if you stick to this sort of deal but that’s not gonna be ideal is it. I find it odd you have funding but don’t prioritize development costs?

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To what Technotik said, Advertisement and Management is about 50% of what makes a true server successful and the other half is development. You for yourself you know what it takes because you have worked with Sprad and Walkchaos and you saw the difference between a dedicated person that actually spends time on making stuff work and organized and a money-hungry person.

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Originally Posted by Abnant [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

If you’re looking for a motivated, dedicated developer that also does quality work you’re gonna have to pay. You might find 1 of the 3 criterias if you stick to this sort of deal but that’s not gonna be ideal is it. I find it odd you have funding but don’t prioritize development costs?

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To add on top of that, yes it's true you need to pay to get quality development and good content but at the same time if you have a semi-good and dedicated developer on your project stuff may turn out right, if it's done right.

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Originally Posted by Optimum [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

can’t you see what you’re asking for in return, you’re asking someone to dedicate their time to you and your prophecy. With no salary, only covering the cost of YOUR server.

what if it fails??? The developer spent all his time which is more valuable than money.


sure, you will find a retard to do this, they will last 1 week and create a plethora of problems, an unjustified amount of coding problems for the long run. If anything, you’re doing yourself worse.

pay your developers, your dreams won’t cover their bills.

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I'm also happy that you have commented on this thread not unlike all the other scammers and shit show servers out there that post threads all over the place, so that shows your interest in what I plan or have come if I find the right partner.

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Originally Posted by Stable [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

To what Technotik said, Advertisement and Management is about 50% of what makes a true server successful and the other half is development. You for yourself you know what it takes because you have worked with Sprad and Walkchaos and you saw the difference between a dedicated person that actually spends time on making stuff work and organized and a money-hungry person.



To add on top of that, yes it's true you need to pay to get quality development and good content but at the same time if you have a semi-good and dedicated developer on your project stuff may turn out right, if it's done right.



I'm also happy that you have commented on this thread not unlike all the other scammers and shit show servers out there that post threads all over the place, so that shows your interest in what I plan or have come if I find the right partner.

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I understand. I just feel like these sorts of trust requiring partnerships are hard to form with people you don’t have previous experience with. Since it’s posted on r-s I’m assuming your already existing contacts are milked dry (:yay:) and hence the concern. It goes both ways, I 100% agree that developing is only a part of the job when running a server. It’s just easier to form partnerships the other way around, atleast so I feel personally.

Regardless I wish you nothing but luck finding what you’re looking for - just be vary of people wasting your time. The keywords here being motivation and dedication when money is usually what drives people and that will be absent for the upstart of the project.

The player has little appreciation for the complexities of the craft of development. All those intricate hours dealing with things the player does not appreciate take so much time and knowledge to do. Stable is right to say that marketing, graphics and hosting are '50%' of the job. Actually I would go further, since the player has no appreciation beyond the immediacy of content almost all of the actual 'drawing players into' the game comes from good marketing, and it is this that makes the profit for both the developer and the manager. I'm not as pessimistic as Optimism is, I think you will find someone who's only interest is in the development side. It is after all an investment and you do plan on paying them after profit has been made.

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I understand. I just feel like these sorts of trust requiring partnerships are hard to form with people you don’t have previous experience with. Since it’s posted on r-s I’m assuming your already existing contacts are milked dry (:yay:) and hence the concern. It goes both ways, I 100% agree that developing is only a part of the job when running a server. It’s just easier to form partnerships the other way around, atleast so I feel personally.

Regardless I wish you nothing but luck finding what you’re looking for - just be vary of people wasting your time. The keywords here being motivation and dedication when money is usually what drives people and that will be absent for the upstart of the project.

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The player has little appreciation for the complexities of the craft of development. All those intricate hours dealing with things the player does not appreciate take so much time and knowledge to do. Stable is right to say that marketing, graphics and hosting are '50%' of the job. Actually I would go further, since the player has no appreciation beyond the immediacy of content almost all of the actual 'drawing players into' the game comes from good marketing, and it is this that makes the profit for both the developer and the manager. I'm not as pessimistic as Optimism is, I think you will find someone who's only interest is in the development side. It is after all an investment and you do plan on paying them after profit has been made.

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More of this ^ in this community would be dope (y)

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Originally Posted by Technotik [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I definitely understand your point, but the title clearly says that he's looking for a partner.

As per my definition, a partnership doesn't mean you're looking to piggyback off of someone else's work, but rather put your work in together, looking for an equal outcome. If you've every ran a successful server, you'd know that development is 50% of it (if not less). The rest is branding, marketing & management, which Stable happens to be incredible at doing.

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what fucking shit are you talking? it's 90% coding. It's not hard to market, takes 1 hour to set things up. Coders spend a lot more time coding than others spend marketing and other stuff

to clarify: you can have 4 developers and 1 manager

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what fucking shit are you talking? it's 90% coding. It's not hard to market, takes 1 hour to set things up. Coders spend a lot more time coding than others spend marketing and other stuff

to clarify: you can have 4 developers and 1 manager

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yea i could see where you were coming from until this comment, m8.

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what fucking shit are you talking? it's 90% coding. It's not hard to market, takes 1 hour to set things up. Coders spend a lot more time coding than others spend marketing and other stuff

to clarify: you can have 4 developers and 1 manager

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You've never actually been in the management position, have you? :)

I feel like I'm trying to find a soulmate, where you at brother hit me up on discord stable#3165

After reading this thread I've learned Technotik loves the stabilizer

I can vouch for Stable. He's been a client of mine for a long time and has always been reliable and transparent.

His word is good.

Good luck man!

position: im aplying for mod
experience: over 10+ years in rsps coding
past work: ragescape, pkscape v3, weedscape and more
why me: not sure lol
experience: over 5+ years in rsps coding

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Originally Posted by Stable [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

I have quite a big budget to invest, but instead of paying you (the developer) I rather pay for the server funds first.

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Yikes

Best of luck finding a team Stable :)

It can be harder finding experienced developers nowadays unless you're paying a bare minimum of $500 weekly, however you still might be able to get a good partnership going as Tech mentioned.

Goodluck buddy, I don't get why people reply if you read the thread correctly :P.

I might contact you sometime soon if I haven't found a partner.

[QUOTE=Optimum;5714058]what fucking shit are you talking? it's 90% coding. It's not hard to market, takes 1 hour to set things up. Coders spend a lot more time coding than others spend marketing and other stuff

This is so untrue it's unreal. Development is yes A.(Harder) B.(More Important) But marketing is a constant daily grind.

Good luck with this have no knowledge of your past experience but if you're ever looking for maps anywhere from osrs-718 lmk :)

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But marketing is a constant daily grind.

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As opposed to developing? :kappa:

There's no denying marketing is important, however don't confuse it with effort. Marketing is largely just setting up the initial thing and maintaining it later on(rsps marketing really doesn't expand, and there's so little you can actually do in it), development is a never ending grind. Once you've set up the marketing(bought ads, made deals with youtubers, perhaps bought some instagram rsps "models") - it's just talking to them every once in awhile and paying them when needed. This is not comparable to development in any way.

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As opposed to developing? :kappa:

There's no denying marketing is important, however don't confuse it with effort. Marketing is largely just setting up the initial thing and maintaining it later on(rsps marketing really doesn't expand, and there's so little you can actually do in it), development is a never ending grind. Once you've set up the marketing(bought ads, made deals with youtubers, perhaps bought some instagram rsps "models") - it's just talking to them every once in awhile and paying them when needed. This is not comparable to development in any way.

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Nah man pressing the post button on facebook, instagram, youtube, and paying for a simple banner / trailer is way too hard man :ujelly:

if you're the one who makes vids for the server like jaedmo did in ataraxia before, i can say that marketing is pain in the ass. but if you only pay a youtuber to make adds for you and pay some banners i can say that marketing is only 1%.

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I can vouch for Stable. He's been a client of mine for a long time and has always been reliable and transparent.

His word is good.

Good luck man!

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Appreciate the kind words bud thank you,

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Best of luck finding a team Stable :)

It can be harder finding experienced developers nowadays unless you're paying a bare minimum of $500 weekly, however you still might be able to get a good partnership going as Tech mentioned.

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Glad to find you posting here, thanks mate

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Goodluck buddy, I don't get why people reply if you read the thread correctly :P.

I might contact you sometime soon if I haven't found a partner.

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As opposed to developing? :kappa:

There's no denying marketing is important, however don't confuse it with effort. Marketing is largely just setting up the initial thing and maintaining it later on(rsps marketing really doesn't expand, and there's so little you can actually do in it), development is a never ending grind. Once you've set up the marketing(bought ads, made deals with youtubers, perhaps bought some instagram rsps "models") - it's just talking to them every once in awhile and paying them when needed. This is not comparable to development in any way.

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Marketing is not as hard as development but it takes time, it's not as easy as you'd think.
1- Paying Youtubers, Posting on Discord and general advertising that's the easiest.
2- But when it goes into a deeper section for example Google or Facebook, you need to pay attention and monitor your ads every day and optimizing it to keep track of your audience and also targeting it correctly because of how the nature of RSPS being soo niche that's what makes it hard, on the side note I'm not only going to be doing advertising that isn't as much "Time" to put, if the developer is putting 30+ hours a week worth of development, I better be putting 40+ hours a week to make his work reachable and also profitable.

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Nah man pressing the post button on facebook, instagram, youtube, and paying for a simple banner / trailer is way too hard man :ujelly:

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Not as easy as you think read what I quoted kris with

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if you're the one who makes vids for the server like jaedmo did in ataraxia before, i can say that marketing is pain in the ass. but if you only pay a youtuber to make adds for you and pay some banners i can say that marketing is only 1%.

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Yes sir.

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Goodluck buddy, I don't get why people reply if you read the thread correctly :P.

I might contact you sometime soon if I haven't found a partner.

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Thank you

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After reading this thread I've learned Technotik loves the stabilizer

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Originally Posted by Women [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

position: im aplying for mod
experience: over 10+ years in rsps coding
past work: ragescape, pkscape v3, weedscape and more
why me: not sure lol
experience: over 5+ years in rsps coding

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What a great application!

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Originally Posted by Stable [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Marketing is not as hard as development but it takes time, it's not as easy as you'd think.
1- Paying Youtubers, Posting on Discord and general advertising that's the easiest.
2- But when it goes into a deeper section for example Google or Facebook, you need to pay attention and monitor your ads every day and optimizing it to keep track of your audience and also targeting it correctly because of how the nature of RSPS being soo niche that's what makes it hard, on the side note I'm not only going to be doing advertising that isn't as much "Time" to put as a developer if the developer is putting 30+ hours a week worth of development, I better be putting 40+ hours a week to make his work reachable and also profitable.

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I think you're only fooling yourself with that to be honest. You can put in lots of time to advertising needs but I honestly do not see it making any sort of a difference. RSPS marketing is niche and it's largely just word of mouth and loyalty. Putting your ads in places like social media can be more damaging than good, it'll put Jagex on your tail like a rabid jackal. There's a reason why our(re: zen) server never had any sort of issues with payment processors or Jagex, and we did just fine when it came to gathering crowds together either way. A large part of the server's lifetime, we were second on the only true toplist, despite our less than bad update cycles.

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As opposed to developing? :kappa:

There's no denying marketing is important, however don't confuse it with effort. Marketing is largely just setting up the initial thing and maintaining it later on(rsps marketing really doesn't expand, and there's so little you can actually do in it), development is a never ending grind. Once you've set up the marketing(bought ads, made deals with youtubers, perhaps bought some instagram rsps "models") - it's just talking to them every once in awhile and paying them when needed. This is not comparable to development in any way.

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What you’re describing isn’t advertising, it’s throwing your money away.
If your role is advertiser, you’re expected to not only have ad accounts set up on every large platform for ads, but you’re also expected to set up a multitude of different campaigns and ad-sets, be able to install google analytics and Facebook pixel (and actually use this data), you’re expected to know how to target your campaigns, you’re expected to be able to scale the right campaigns, you’re expected to be in constant, daily contact with youtubers, website owners, partners and that’s just scratching the surface. I haven’t even touched on the constant back and forth with designers and team members/managers for creatives.

What Stable is offering is being the advertiser, AND the manager. Don’t even get me started on manager because that’s a bigger job than ads and development combined.

Programmers are usually up their own asses because they think they do the most important work, because learning the skill takes a massive chunk of your life. The key to a winning business is a solid team with members who actually know what they are doing in their field.

Also, there are multiple examples of why you SHOULD be utilizing social media to advertise your server. Runite did 1k+ on release day. Zenyte didn’t need as much of a boost as runite, because zenyte had been under public development for years.

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I think you're only fooling yourself with that, to be honest. You can put in lots of time to advertising needs but I honestly do not see it making any sort of a difference. RSPS marketing is niche and it's largely just word of mouth and loyalty. Putting your ads in places like social media can be more damaging than good, it'll put Jagex on your tail like a rabid jackal. There's a reason why our(re: zen) server never had any sort of issues with payment processors or Jagex, and we did just fine when it came to gathering crowds together either way. A large part of the server's lifetime, we were second on the only true toplist, despite our less than bad update cycles.

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You do bring up a point of course, but when you advertising on socials and so on.. it doesn't mean you to be targetted by Jagex from my POV it would be gathering bigger crowds and hype around your server, Zenyte had a successful launch for many reasons your reputation, uniqueness and that way you guys branded the server was very well done and is very smart you completely relied on word of mouth and toplists, but its downfall putting aside the issues with development is because you have not invested as much into YouTubers because you thought it not worth the "click" yet you have not thought about abusing the YT algorithm to a limit where if anybody searches RSPS it wouldn't pop but Zenyte, it doesn't have to do with socials and the amount you spend it's how you do it.
I may be fooling my self of course but if this "server" that I MAY have a partner with fails then it fails, it's still a try and I'm willing to take more if need be.

From my experience in both Development and Management in RSPS, this discussion is pretty easily squashed.

While Facebook, YouTube, Google, SEO & other means of advertisements are extremely beneficial for servers, the server has nothing to advertise on these platforms without consistent Development. Most of the time, these forms of advertisements are a HUGE waste of money, as Kris said. From RSPS Top list ads costing from $150-$600/month PER SPOT to Facebook costing depending on your outreach and audience $30-$150/month, don't get me started on RSPS YouTubers. All of these add up to an extortionate amount, when realistically, that $1000-$3000 you're spending a month on boosting your Adverstisements could go towards 1-3 Developers that will progress your server even more, and then spend $500-1000 a month on a few YouTubers/Ads to reach out and let people know about your new updates.

Main thing you need to realise is:

Can a server run without Advertisements successfully? Yes
Can a server run without Development successfully? Not a chance.
Can a server run without Management successfully? Not a chance.

However, when it comes to an RSPS first starting out, it's not what you have, it's how you portray it, and that's where advertisements and people in these management roles thrive. Maintaining a server past this point is PURELY Development priority and management, advertisements are far less-prominent when there's an existing playerbase.

Zenyte had a massive launch due to months upon months if not over a year of constant teasers, advertisements and competitions pre-launch getting everybody ready. Once they launched, they captured people who's attention hadn't been drawn through ZachTX and a few other YouTubers. Following this, they didn't use another YouTuber, no Facebook ads, no Instagram ads, only maintained their Runelocus ad-spots and being #2.



There's a reason Developers are so hard to come by these days, because people undervalue the ability they have to completely change a server, the Developers are often let down by the people who claim to be managers as they expect the server to run flawlessly as it progresses with development.

Management is so much more than advertisement as you stated, Stable. However, it has much more to do with the way you run the game and organise feedback, staff, quality assurance and development prioritisation compared to advertising. From my experience, that has been the biggest downfall of servers, and even Ataraxia at points. Developers are only as strong as the server's management, and unfortunately, we saw this with the recent downfall of Zenyte despite having Noele, Tommeh, Corey, Kris & Hacker.

OT: Have watched your recent streams, I hope you manage to find somebody, but you must value Developers a bit more, especially if you are unable to do what they do.

thanks for accepting my aplicaton

looking for ward to moding ur server.

Best of luck, I understand the reasoning for some of the negative comments however I do agree with your responses!
Shoot me a PM, I may be able to extend an offer of some kind :)

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From my experience in both Development and Management in RSPS, this discussion is pretty easily squashed.

While Facebook, YouTube, Google, SEO & other means of advertisements are extremely beneficial for servers, the server has nothing to advertise on these platforms without consistent Development. Most of the time, these forms of advertisements are a HUGE waste of money, as Kris said. From RSPS Top list ads costing from $150-$600/month PER SPOT to Facebook costing depending on your outreach and audience $30-$150/month, don't get me started on RSPS YouTubers. All of these add up to an extortionate amount, when realistically, that $1000-$3000 you're spending a month on boosting your Adverstisements could go towards 1-3 Developers that will progress your server even more, and then spend $500-1000 a month on a few YouTubers/Ads to reach out and let people know about your new updates.

Main thing you need to realise is:

Can a server run without Advertisements successfully? Yes
Can a server run without Development successfully? Not a chance.
Can a server run without Management successfully? Not a chance.

However, when it comes to an RSPS first starting out, it's not what you have, it's how you portray it, and that's where advertisements and people in these management roles thrive. Maintaining a server past this point is PURELY Development priority and management, advertisements are far less-prominent when there's an existing playerbase.

Zenyte had a massive launch due to months upon months if not over a year of constant teasers, advertisements and competitions pre-launch getting everybody ready. Once they launched, they captured people who's attention hadn't been drawn through ZachTX and a few other YouTubers. Following this, they didn't use another YouTuber, no Facebook ads, no Instagram ads, only maintained their Runelocus ad-spots and being #2.



There's a reason Developers are so hard to come by these days, because people undervalue the ability they have to completely change a server, the Developers are often let down by the people who claim to be managers as they expect the server to run flawlessly as it progresses with development.

Management is so much more than advertisement as you stated, Stable. However, it has much more to do with the way you run the game and organise feedback, staff, quality assurance and development prioritisation compared to advertising. From my experience, that has been the biggest downfall of servers, and even Ataraxia at points. Developers are only as strong as the server's management, and unfortunately, we saw this with the recent downfall of Zenyte despite having Noele, Tommeh, Corey, Kris & Hacker.

OT: Have watched your recent streams, I hope you manage to find somebody, but you must value Developers a bit more, especially if you are unable to do what they do.

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Your words can't be any more right you pretty much justified the entire conversation between everybody, and thanks for watching the streams as for the developers I do value everybody and their work and hopefully will find a good partner down the line.

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thanks for accepting my aplicaton

looking for ward to moding ur server.

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Oh I thought your are already programming you what?

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Best of luck, I understand the reasoning for some of the negative comments however I do agree with your responses!
Shoot me a PM, I may be able to extend an offer of some kind :)

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Appreciate it mate, if its for Valos I'm not interested sadly

Did Kris really just say social media will attract Jagex? Do you think they've never heard of Zenyte or something lmao. They aren't shutting you down because they don't care enough, especially now they're run by the Chinese.

Only people bitching on this thread are devs that can't manage if their life depended on it.

I've worked in the past with Stable, he's a straight up guy. He is a bit weird sometimes and has a fetish for fucking donuts. I vouch for him though.

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Did Kris really just say social media will attract Jagex? Do you think they've never heard of Zenyte or something lmao. They aren't shutting you down because they don't care enough, especially now they're run by the Chinese.

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If you go over your limits they may chase you, because your overstepping some boundries

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Only people bitching on this thread are devs that can't manage if their life depended on it.

I've worked in the past with Stable, he's a straight up guy. He is a bit weird sometimes and has a fetish for fucking donuts. I vouch for him though.

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Appreciate it bud thanks

I get cancer from reading these comments.
Vouch for my g stable, mans knows his shit. Hopefully you'll find someone bud.

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Originally Posted by Kraken [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Only people bitching on this thread are devs that can't manage if their life depended on it.

I've worked in the past with Stable, he's a straight up guy. He is a bit weird sometimes and has a fetish for fucking donuts. I vouch for him though.

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TLDR: People with talent should be expected to allow someone else to leverage that talent with no promise of anything in return :^)

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Originally Posted by Kraken [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Only people bitching on this thread are devs that can't manage if their life depended on it.

I've worked in the past with Stable, he's a straight up guy. He is a bit weird sometimes and has a fetish for fucking donuts. I vouch for him though.

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TLDR: People with talent should be expected to allow someone else to leverage that talent with no promise of anything in return :^)