Thread: How to figure out opcodes for server->client and client->server for OSRS?

Originally Posted by BlackMomba

agreed upon the new shuffled order. Once this happens the method no longer becomes truly random.

the shuffled order was randomly generated. i dont know what on earth you mean by "truly random", my post never suggested that the client randomises them on every message, they randomise them when they build the client which is why they change per revision. i directly quoted Fire Cape who said he "doubts they change them every time", referring to the fact that they change every revision.

Originally Posted by Fire Cape

Guessing he means because it is pseudo random if you have the seed you could use it to generate the same series of results - not sure how you would work out the seed that they use, there may be no actual pattern to it.

that's not what he means, he thinks im implying they are random on every client<->server interaction which isn't what we were talking about when i quoted you

Originally Posted by BlackMomba

Exactly. What you were saying before was they randomise them, the code isn't written against hard coded numbers

what do you mean "what i was saying before"? from the start i was quoting Fire Cape who was referring to the fact that the opcodes are shuffled randomly every new client build.

This is all I was saying, that it's truly not random.

the shuffling of the opcodes on every client build is definitely random...

It wouldn't be physically possible unless its an algorithm.

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The server would not understand its instructions if it wasn't compared against hard-coded numbers.

the order of the opcodes are shuffled randomly when the client is built, the output of this random shuffle is stored so that the server knows what they were randomised to

what part of this are you thinking isn't random?