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    Quote Originally Posted by trees View Post
    Oo I’m hurt. Faggot
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank View Post
    You the one acting tough lmao

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    I don't think you get it. I was the one that came to Techno when I found out I shouldn't have the source, who then decided to release it. The version I released here and developed was USING THE SOURCE YOU RELEASED.
    You literally contacted us and bugged the shit out of us to help you along with kris and everyone else and told us you bought a copy behind our back why you changing your story for these people on r-s
     

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    Would really love to see some evidence, then start choosing parties.

    But who am I to ask for evidence
     

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    Didn’t realize what a fucking wall of text this was, but let me shed some light on what led up to this

    I paid nomac $3k for the original conversion to 155 back in 2017, every rev update since then has been done by me. I paid Nomac $750 a week as he claimed he needed 4 weeks to do GPI partially and update packet data (I hadn’t bothered diving into learning it myself at this point, and had the money to throw away), which he didn’t even finish nor do himself, before I found out that he had released Arios #149 (not that it was a secret). I also found out that he had been selling that server I had paid $3k for to numerous people.

    I appreciate that you came forward with Nomac selling you our 176 version of Arios, but that gets lost in a fog of us knowing how much we paid for the initial conversion and how much time and energy has been put into getting it to the point it’s currently at. Don’t get me wrong, Inferno isn’t anywhere near where this release is. I’m not going to write an update post on this thread but the only reason I’d still call it Arios is because of the great plugin system that me and trees have grown to love (and the truckload of plugins it has). Releasing 176 was an extremely difficult thing for me and trees to do, and my intention was never for it to be a commercial release, more of a launchpad for people to start learning from.
    That being said, I get exactly where trees is coming from, and when I mention 3 grand and 6 months of slow paced and frustrating work, I hope you do as well.

    I’d also like to point out how grateful I am to Kris and Klem3n for the massive amounts of information and help they’ve so kindly assisted me with to even be able to make things like this possible.

    Either way, if people don’t actually use this to learn, it will be obsolete by a few months of revision updates.
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    No either way this kid shouldn't be running his mouth like he did anything here. He didn't improve anything, he didn't do anything that didn't come from us. Whole lotta bullshit thats what this is, our work and our money thats what it is.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigsaw View Post
    I understand why you're upset, but your logic is flawed. You seem to be completely disregarding the fact that you released the exact source Vash used. You're treating him as though he would've released his variant whether or not you made yours public, and that is simply not the case. He only felt comfortable releasing his because you'd already done so.

    Should he have given you guys a heads up beforehand out of courtesy? Probably. But he had no obligation to, and in no way backstabbed you. If you didn't want people building off your project, you shouldn't have released it...
    It's a bit different because this isn't the same version that was released publicly. And, being told, out of the kindness of their heart, that you're allowed to continue using the stolen software you purchased doesn't mean you're necessarily allowed to publicly release it, especially before talking to them first.

    This whole thing is overblown at this point, but the right course of action would've just been "oops, sorry; let me add you to the top" and life would've gone on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hank View Post
    It was released already, sucks to suck.
    Source is booty anyways, just like any other RSPS other than Apollo.

    Now quit ya bitching.
    aren't u the one still complaining about people using leaked copies of imagine as of yesterday, lol - it always sucks when people use your stuff improperly

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    Quote Originally Posted by trees View Post
    No either way this kid shouldn't be running his mouth like he did anything here. He didn't improve anything, he didn't do anything that didn't come from us. Whole lotta bullshit thats what this is, our work and our money thats what it is.
    Just move on dude, it's pointless to even reply to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by arseny View Post
    It's a bit different because this isn't the same version that was released publicly. And, being told, out of the kindness of their heart, that you're allowed to continue using the stolen software you purchased doesn't mean you're necessarily allowed to publicly release it, especially before talking to them first.

    This whole thing is overblown at this point, but the right course of action would've just been "oops, sorry; let me add you to the top" and life would've gone on.
    I feel like I've said this a thousand times by now but this is the version that was released publicly and I did move them up in the credits as requested.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vashmeed View Post
    Just move on dude, it's pointless to even reply to you.



    I feel like I've said this a thousand times by now but this is the version that was released publicly and I did move them up in the credits as requested.
    Change your story all you want, tell me to leave all you want, you didn't do a thing here, this is direct leeched copy that you bought from nomac minus some shit packet work that you begged me and kris and polar for... You contacted us long ago and told us what you did, you can't change that now. After asking us for help and techno reluctantly helping you because you came forward to us and told us about what happened.. for you to then going ahead and releasing this was such a shit bag move kid. Damn well knowing you own no rights to this and it wasn't the released version. This is ours and you can't change that fact, you caused me stress and pain over it hope you happy.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vashmeed View Post
    I feel like I've said this a thousand times by now but this is the version that was released publicly and I did add them to the credits as requested.
    Idk where you've said it's the same exact version, lol. All I've seen is "it's similar" or "minor differences". The point is that if Rhiel's copy that he sold u is not 1:1 what was publicly released, you should ask first. That's all.

    And, in general, if you are going to publish the stolen copy, at least don't go praising the guy who scammed both you and his friends over the people who said it was okay for you to continue using it since you were scammed too - e.g., "...and bold as well as Nomac, since he's the one that even bothered converting Arios to OSRS". The point is just don't be rude about it & give credit where credit is due, lol.

    Again, just an "oops, my bad" would've probably been fine. Trees and Technotik are generally pretty cool and understanding guys (see: the fact that they were ok with you using the stolen code in the first place).

    On another note, I don't want to totally discourage you either for trying to do a good a thing so
    The contribution is cool. And, I'm glad to see general access to OSRS servers being more democratized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trees View Post
    Change your story all you want, tell me to leave all you want, you didn't do a thing here, this is direct leeched copy that you bought from nomac minus some shit packet work that you begged me and kris and polar for... You contacted us long ago and told us what you did, you can't change that now. After asking us for help and techno reluctantly helping you because you came forward to us and told us about what happened.. for you to then going ahead and releasing this was such a shit bag move kid. Damn well knowing you own no rights to this and it wasn't the released version. This is ours and you can't change that fact, you caused me stress and pain over it hope you happy.
    Polar helped me more than I could ask for and so did Kris. You actually never helped me.

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    I didn't beg anyone for anything. I got advice and used it to figure out what I did in this source.
    You're right, I did contact Technotik who was really thankful I told him about the leak and said he'd release it, which I posted pictures of.

    When releases are posted of Elvarg improvements and the like, I wonder if Professor Oak would react the same way you are?
    The answer is no, he wouldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by arseny View Post
    Idk where you've said it's the same exact version, lol. All I've seen is "it's similar" or "minor differences". The point is that if Rhiel's copy that he sold u is not 1:1 what was publicly released, you should ask first. That's all.

    And, in general, if you are going to publish the stolen copy, at least don't go praising the guy who scammed both you and his friends over the people who said it was okay for you to continue using it since you were scammed too - e.g., "...and bold as well as Nomac, since he's the one that even bothered converting Arios to OSRS". The point is just don't be rude about it & give credit where credit is due, lol.

    Again, just an "oops, my bad" would've probably been fine. Trees and Technotik are generally pretty cool and understanding guys (see: the fact that they were ok with you using the stolen code in the first place).

    On another note, I don't want to totally discourage you either for trying to do a good a thing so
    Here's where I directly stated my source was built off of their 176 release:

    I don't think you get it. I was the one that came to Techno when I found out I shouldn't have the source, who then decided to release it. The version I released here and developed was USING THE SOURCE YOU RELEASED.
    I gave credit in the original post and changed the order the credit was given in after Trees commented on it.
     

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