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    Quote Originally Posted by Brezzo View Post
    all we need is these pr0 hackers that were there back in the days to shut down rs then GG.
    not sure if there are any hidden nowadays..

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    Just went in to arrav.com and it redirects to runescape so that means they shutted down too?

    If you knew what a "pro hacker" was, you wouldn't have said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron is god View Post
    If you knew what a "pro hacker" was, you wouldn't have said that.
    i have no idea about hacking tbh...
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    Im curious why projectrs06 didn't got shutdown yet?

    - big server with 1.5k players
    - has 'rs' in the site name
    - using leeched 2006scape source
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucid View Post
    What if they really were to come after you though? How far would you be willing to go?
    What can they even prove lol?

    More or less a hosting company is hosting the server, not you. The hosting company will drop you before they even dare go to court over copyright infringement.

    They can't make a claim against how much money you've made because they have no grounds on being able to access your tax records or any payments from the middle-man companies like PayPal/Plimus/Google/etc.

    They can't use recorded telephone conversations unless you acknowledge and consent to the recording of the call.

    Honestly, unless you're hosting your server and/or forums/site that directly links to the client in a DMCA infested country like US/Canada/Germany/UK/etc. I don't see what they can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzgerald View Post
    What can they even prove lol?

    More or less a hosting company is hosting the server, not you. The hosting company will drop you before they even dare go to court over copyright infringement.

    They can't make a claim against how much money you've made because they have no grounds on being able to access your tax records or any payments from the middle-man companies like PayPal/Plimus/Google/etc.

    They can't use recorded telephone conversations unless you acknowledge and consent to the recording of the call.

    Honestly, unless you're hosting your server and/or forums/site that directly links to the client in a DMCA infested country like US/Canada/Germany/UK/etc. I don't see what they can do.
    They can't make a claim against how much money you've made because they have no grounds on being able to access your tax records or any payments from the middle-man companies like PayPal/Plimus/Google/etc.

    ^ they can, IDK if you ever heard about rsbots.net. (they made bots for rs) they got taken to court and got ALL PAYMENT data from paypal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coder Dimi View Post
    They can't make a claim against how much money you've made because they have no grounds on being able to access your tax records or any payments from the middle-man companies like PayPal/Plimus/Google/etc.

    ^ they can, IDK if you ever heard about rsbots.net. (they made bots for rs) they got taken to court and got ALL PAYMENT data from paypal.
    Pretty sure that information was only given after the case.

    That lawsuit also brings it back to the duration of these types of cases:
    Lawsuit Summary - Jagex Limited v. Impulse Software et al

    File Date: Tuesday, February 09, 2010
    1/31/2012 Civil Case Terminated. (Patch, Christine) (Entered: 02/01/2012)

    Jagex doesn't have the need, want, or purpose to take servers on a 2 year journey to get nothing out of it. Demolishing rsbots.net supplied them with information and god knows what else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzgerald View Post
    Pretty sure that information was only given after the case.

    That lawsuit also brings it back to the duration of these types of cases:
    Lawsuit Summary - Jagex Limited v. Impulse Software et al

    File Date: Tuesday, February 09, 2010
    1/31/2012 Civil Case Terminated. (Patch, Christine) (Entered: 02/01/2012)

    Jagex doesn't have the need, want, or purpose to take servers on a 2 year journey to get nothing out of it. Demolishing rsbots.net supplied them with information and god knows what else.
    Owners went bankrupt with the fine they had to pay (even though they made half a million with their business).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coder Dimi View Post
    Owners went bankrupt with the fine they had to pay (even though they made half a million with their business).
    Do people even need to make a comparison between a company that made $500,000 and a private server run by 15-20 year olds?


    The case didn't even go to court:
    Jagex vs Impulse Software. Agreement for Judgment

    They signed one of those and the case was terminated some 2012 date. So yeah, only after the case did Impulse Software provide all their records, source code, documents, and such.

    And I assume by supplying the information requested, they accept the terms of the consent judgment entry.

    Defendants shall transfer to Jagex—within 10 days of entry of this Order— any and all document(s), writing(s), or recording(s) as defined under Fed. R. Civ. P. 34 or Fed. R. Evid. 1001 that relate to Defendants’ bots including, but not limited to, source code,scripts, development documents, manuals, instructions, and copies of any of the foregoing
    Within 10 days of the entry of this Order, Defendants shall identify and provide all contact information in their possession to Jagex for all current or past resellers,script developers, code developers, and customers for any product marketed, licensed, or sold by Defendants dealing with any Jagex Game.
    It had to be post everything because only last year did Jagex mass-message everybody that had some sort of record from one of those sites that ordered any software to use to bot on RS.
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    I agree they wouldn't sue a litle server run by a 12 year old. But big ones making $30k/month?

    I was thinking about SoulSplit etc. NO SERVER IS SAFE.
    Whatever people are saying, they are using a modificated version of a client owned by Jagex and that is illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coder Dimi View Post
    I agree they wouldn't sue a litle server run by a 12 year old. But big ones making $30k/month?

    I was thinking about SoulSplit etc. NO SERVER IS SAFE.
    Whatever people are saying, they are using a modificated version of a client owned by Jagex and that is illegal.
    Pretty sure its more along the lines of using their intellectual property for commercial reasons, hence why it seems that powerbot is actually safe.

    And if they were targeting the large servers, why is SS still up? The only server that was actually, maybe, shut down by Jagex is 2006Scape and that questionable because I don't see any publicly accessible documented agreement that Vault or Jagex or anybody signed. It more or less appears that Vault was threatened to simply quit without losing a single dollar and kinda just handed over the name servers in good faith.

    Besides, again:
    However, Jagex shall be free to represent generically to the public that the amount this Order required Defendants to pay Jagex for its damages andattorneys’ fees was in excess of “six figures.”
    Lettuce be cereal, Jagex won't do anything to rsps. All it seems that they are doing is throwing unofficial threats and the common place DMCA filing.
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