Client.java size does not lagg your server.

I just worked this out. If you have 2000 players online, and your Client.java is 2MB (thats the biggest freakin thing ever, i doubt ANY server has one over 1MB)

(2000 players * 2MB = 4000MB) / 1024 = 3.9GB

The runescape servers probably have like 40GB RAM, and i doubt and server here has that many players anyway. What uses up your RAM is the "byte[] buffer". This is a byte[] used to store all information in until it it written out to the client once per 600ms. There may be up to 3 buffers, each being tens of thousands of bytes in size. Think, new byte[70000]. One for client.java, one for outStream, and one for inStream. Plus, a new one possibly even bigger for the players update block. Thats where your memory goes.


Things that cause lagg:

Process being large. It should be like maybe 20 lines max.
A bug in winterLove causes process to be repeated for EVERY packet sent. So if a player clicks 5 times in one cycle, it repeats process 5 times.

To many NPC's. They have to be processed just like players, and in winterLove, it checks like 50 ID's for every NPC for talking above their heads, and for fighting, e.c.t.

Bugged code.
This is the major thing. wL has tons of unnecessary code. Sometimes methods repeat over and over for no reason.

Large parseIncomingPackets() method.
If you click an object, it has to go through maybe 2-3k if statements to find the right object ID you clicked on.

wL is such a reused source for bases. there are so many things that you never even knew about in there. Try reading through client.java. 90% of it will be stuff never used, or used for no reason.

Maybe you guys can fix it now. All this doesn't mean wL is crap. Its a much reused source, thats collected junk over time. My own 317 and 474 servers are wL type, and they certainly don't have these type of issues.

That statement is false, it depends what makes your client class large. If you have a 1MB process void then that would slow down the server.

Time to go and try to make a 500MB client class :D

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Originally Posted by Boomer [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

That statement is false, it depends what makes your client class large. If you have a 1MB process void then that would slow down the server.

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no it is not, if the client.java is 2mb and that keeps getting created every new player login it will be a major mem hog, and runescape servers do not have 40gb ram u idiot

The actual client class size will not lag your server. Its what you have in there and how you time everything. If you use your process for everything your server will lag to shit. Having a lot in the actual class will not do shit.

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The runescape servers probably have like 40GB RAM, and i doubt and server here has that many players anyway.

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LOL! One of jagex dedi has MAX 2-4gb. Moreover they run 2 worlds on it.
And their computers could even have 512mb ram for two worlds, if they receive
all the configuration stuff from somewhere else.

I personally think their servers have 2gb ram. Gameservers don't have to be super
machines if the code is proper. :D


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The client size won't hurt the ram usage that hard. The thing that hurts servers
here tremendously are the those huge buffers. :)

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Originally Posted by thomy-13 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

LOL! One of jagex dedi has MAX 2-4gb. Moreover they run 2 worlds on it.
And their computers could even have 512mb ram for two worlds, if they receive
all the configuration stuff from somewhere else.

I personally think their servers have 2gb ram. Gameservers don't have to be super
machines if the code is proper. :D


ON TOPIC:

The client size won't hurt the ram usage that hard. The thing that hurts servers
here tremendously are the those huge buffers. :)

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you sir need to know more

as a player logs it it will require more memory... if each player used 100mb that 1000mb per 10 people, = 1gb memory

if player uses 10mb which is highly unlikely since so much goes on in runescape that would be 1gb per 100 people

they use servers that hold 2k players and at 10mb per player 20000mb or memory needed

thats 20gb ram needed to run a 2k player server at players using 10mb per player

They don't use 20gb of ram lawl, they have all their shit with mysql.

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Originally Posted by Boomer [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

That statement is false, it depends what makes your client class large. If you have a 1MB process void then that would slow down the server.

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What? Can you read? I said huge processing slows it down. The size of objects does not.

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no it is not, if the client.java is 2mb and that keeps getting created every new player login it will be a major mem hog, and runescape servers do not have 40gb ram u idiot

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Not 40, but probably 12+

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The actual client class size will not lag your server. Its what you have in there and how you time everything. If you use your process for everything your server will lag to shit. Having a lot in the actual class will not do shit.

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by thomy-13 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

LOL! One of jagex dedi has MAX 2-4gb. Moreover they run 2 worlds on it.
And their computers could even have 512mb ram for two worlds, if they receive
all the configuration stuff from somewhere else.

I personally think their servers have 2gb ram. Gameservers don't have to be super
machines if the code is proper. :D


ON TOPIC:

The client size won't hurt the ram usage that hard. The thing that hurts servers
here tremendously are the those huge buffers. :)

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Bull sheatt. They dont run more than one world off of each computer. Whats the fucking point in that? Just have one world.

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Originally Posted by lmctruck30 [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

you sir need to know more

as a player logs it it will require more memory... if each player used 100mb that 1000mb per 10 people, = 1gb memory

if player uses 10mb which is highly unlikely since so much goes on in runescape that would be 1gb per 100 people

they use servers that hold 2k players and at 10mb per player 20000mb or memory needed

thats 20gb ram needed to run a 2k player server at players using 10mb per player

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What the hell are you talking about? The players will not use more memory as time goes on. (noticeably) Why would that even happen? 10MB per player?? What the hell are you on?

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They don't use 20gb of ram lawl, they have all their shit with mysql.

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Your just a moron.



Anyway they use NIO; meaning they don't have buffers like us. I'm willing to bet they have huge player objects though. Not with methods like refreshSkills(), that could be made once and used for each client object. RuenScapes player objects are probably filled with only useful variables. Also, its not like the RAM is expensive. I just bought 8GB DDR2 yesterday for $92.. I'm sure Jagex can manage to pull that off.

Guys! Guys! Guys! What really causes lag are:

(1) IO Processes, e.g - loading and saving constantly
(2) Process timers
(3) Large arrays e.g. int[] array = new int[999999999];
(4) The player updating process
(5) Not using the garbage collector at intervals/ after loading processes
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