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Originally Posted by _Triage

I was a member of staff when they added all that stuff. Gave me the same excuse when I mentioned how bad an idea it was - that it was just a stimulus for the economy - when really it was just to pump a bit of money into their pockets. The owner repeatedly invested money poorly, getting scammed by shady developers ([Only registered and activated users can see links. ]) and buying sources that were never utilized (server changed revisions like 3 times in 2 weeks). The high-tier equipment that was added to the donator store practically ruined the economy at the time, with the small portion of the player-base who had disposable income shooting to the top of the food chain ([Only registered and activated users can see links. ]).

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Articuno got removed from his position as Community Manager as soon as he raised concerns over players being unhappy with the constant resets/changes of revision.

They ended up wiping the economy after a number of dupes were being exploited, eventually changing the revision to the current one. They started with a donator store that was exclusive to perks (skilling, combat, passive, etc), but now that they've added the high-tier equipment back, it's fairly easy to see that they're going with the pay-to-win model of business.

"Articuno" couldn't have done anything in the first place. He had broken his computer or laptop, whatever he used, and wouldn't have been able to do anything website-wise. So regardless of how he turned out, his opinion wouldn't have mattered. He didn't have anything to go on after he broke his computer. I'll admit that it was unwise of Jessica to promote him even after she knew that he wouldn't be able to do anything, but he ended up leaving anyway. Articuno left on his own free will, he wasn't ousted by anyone. Literally in one of those messages he says "As far as I know, five players have quit since the reset/revamp. Six if you count losing me as a player." So he blatantly admitted to leaving of his own free will.

Now, in regards to the pay-to-win aspect - I believe the only thing Divinity should have stuck with was the perks and cosmetics. They aren't pay-to-win (especially cosmetics,) and they're helpful towards progress. It's not like it's a HUGE advantage in regards to some of the perks. I think if you advertise that you're not pay-to-win and you have some pretty heavy duty items in your shop, you are, indeed, false advertising. However, if you take out the whole "we're not pay-to-win" then you can really gain an insight on what a majority of servers are already doing. Elkoy, SoulPlay, DawnTained, Os-Scape, Atlas, Etherum, even MY server has items in it. Though, we didn't include end-game gear. More like just items that help you get through the game. Whips, statius, zuriels, morrigans, boots, rings, amulets, and, of course, cosmetics. I don't care what anyone says in regards to maintaining a server without items in their shop - if your server is self-efficient, then YOU NEED INCOME. How do you think all of these large servers stay up for so long? Yeah, make some donator ranks that give some dope ass perks - those people aren't going to continue donating unless they have that kind of money. People want something small to buy and keep buying (IF IT'S WORTH IT.)

But I see where you're coming from in regards to falsely advertising not to be pay-to-win. Every server has ups and downs - it's about getting through them and maintaining a solid, loyal community. Look at what happened with OSR, basically the same shit happened here and we're still going. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah, there's the occasional poor management but you can't say that you haven't made mistakes.

Though I have been through a majority of this stuff WITH Jessica, I have still not faltered nor left because of mistakes they've made. Call me old fashioned but loyalty is a key value of mine and will continue to work with Jessica through this.

Thank you everyone for shedding some light on some of our mistakes and we hope to correct them and improve further.

Originally Posted by Jayson

Now, in regards to the pay-to-win aspect - I believe the only thing Divinity should have stuck with was the perks and cosmetics. They aren't pay-to-win (especially cosmetics,) and they're helpful towards progress. It's not like it's a HUGE advantage in regards to some of the perks. I think if you advertise that you're not pay-to-win and you have some pretty heavy duty items in your shop, you are, indeed, false advertising. However, if you take out the whole "we're not pay-to-win" then you can really gain an insight on what a majority of servers are already doing. Elkoy, SoulPlay, DawnTained, Os-Scape, Atlas, Etherum, even MY server has items in it. Though, we didn't include end-game gear. More like just items that help you get through the game. Whips, statius, zuriels, morrigans, boots, rings, amulets, and, of course, cosmetics. I don't care what anyone says in regards to maintaining a server without items in their shop - if your server is self-efficient, then YOU NEED INCOME. How do you think all of these large servers stay up for so long? Yeah, make some donator ranks that give some dope ass perks - those people aren't going to continue donating unless they have that kind of money. People want something small to buy and keep buying (IF IT'S WORTH IT.)

But I see where you're coming from in regards to falsely advertising not to be pay-to-win. Every server has ups and downs - it's about getting through them and maintaining a solid, loyal community. Look at what happened with OSR, basically the same shit happened here and we're still going. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah, there's the occasional poor management but you can't say that you haven't made mistakes.

No. My problem with the selling of items, isn't even really about selling of the items, bunch of servers do it, like i mean a LOT of servers do it, and my problem isn't with that, its with the false advertising and the way of in a way saying "Oh by the way, look at us, we're so much better than all those other pay-to-win servers, we're not pay to win like them, come to us" while at the same time selling level 90 weapons, like pick one, are you or are you not a pay-to-win server? If you're not, i'm not going to tell you that you have to say on your advertisement thread that you are a pay-to-win server, but don't come here saying that you're NOT a pay-to-win server when you very clearly are. All i would like to see is some honesty, is that too much to ask nowadays? I guess it is.

- When i'm referring to the pay-to-win server i am referring to Divinity, not your server Jayson, just wanted to make that clear since i am referring to "your server" but i am referring to Divinity
- Another issue i have with advertising it as "Not Pay-To-Win" is that some people might be attracted to the server because of that aspect since it is so rare nowadays to find a server that isn't pay to win that when you find one you wanna go try it out and then because like i have said before Divinity IS a good server, they very well might stick around on the server and put a lot of time in it, just to have it change to your typical pay-to-win scheme, even after advertising it as "not pay-to-win" AND still to this very day, advertising it as "Not pay-to-win" you cant be a "Not pay-to-win" server and sell tier 90 weapons for each combat style in the store, that's not how this works, pick one, you cant have both.

Originally Posted by The Japan

No. My problem with the selling of items, isn't even really about selling of the items, bunch of servers do it, like i mean a LOT of servers do it, and my problem isn't with that, its with the false advertising and the way of in a way saying "Oh by the way, look at us, we're so much better than all those other pay-to-win servers, we're not pay to win like them, come to us" while at the same time selling level 90 weapons, like pick one, are you or are you not a pay-to-win server? If you're not, i'm not going to tell you that you have to say on your advertisement thread that you are a pay-to-win server, but don't come here saying that you're NOT a pay-to-win server when you very clearly are. All i would like to see is some honesty, is that too much to ask nowadays? I guess it is.

- When i'm referring to the pay-to-win server i am referring to Divinity, not your server Jayson, just wanted to make that clear since i am referring to "your server" but i am referring to Divinity
- Another issue i have with advertising it as "Not Pay-To-Win" is that some people might be attracted to the server because of that aspect since it is so rare nowadays to find a server that isn't pay to win that when you find one you wanna go try it out and then because like i have said before Divinity IS a good server, they very well might stick around on the server and put a lot of time in it, just to have it change to your typical pay-to-win scheme, even after advertising it as "not pay-to-win" AND still to this very day, advertising it as "Not pay-to-win" you cant be a "Not pay-to-win" server and sell tier 90 weapons for each combat style in the store, that's not how this works, pick one, you cant have both.

I understand. I speak on this thread on behalf of myself as the Divinity Forum Administrator. And I do agree with your statement that if a server is proclaiming themselves to be at a higher standard by not implementing a ridiculous pay-to-win environment like a majority of servers, that proclamation should be stuck to. It shouldn't vary depending on the week or if revenue is slowing down. I believe the Divinity team have a lot of room to improve from this and should definitely consider alternate methods to increase revenue. By implementing their current perk system, they open up a variety of avenues to explore in regard to a multitude of the available skills. It's just about coming up with ones that are advantageous in given situations.


I will and will continue to relay their mistakes in hopes that they learn and improve from them. They have ways to go, but, as you said, Divinity is a good server. They just need to find their way.

Originally Posted by Devochka

Bump ~

By the way, the limited time packages idea was just to fill the economy with some items so that players can be able to start killing high tier bosses, but this is considered pay-to-win scheme as you were not able to get those items for free but in fact while these packages were in our webstore we did host couple events that allowed every player to have a fair chance winning those items for free, this actually has fixed the economy and made it even more stable beside the fact that we gathered some donations to pay for our ads, all in all it's a win win situation fixing economy and gathering donations to help the server to stand out, we don't support the pay-to-win schemes as the items have been removed automatically form the store after the players donated for it. Unfortunately I had a car crash couple weeks ago so I was gone and the player base is decreasing eventually however we're working on a decent updates right now that I'm pretty sure will make the community rise back again! Thanks for the comments and I apologize if someone ever thought we're having some false advertisements, have a great day everyone and happy gaming! ~

I stated before that i do not care why or how they are in the store because YOU say that YOU are not a pay-to-win server, but you are tho, i do not care what the reasoning for having them there is... Because every server has their excuses "Oh we just keep them there so we can pay to keep the server going" which is a valid reasoning, and as i stated before i do not have a problem with pay-to-win servers, they are absolutely everywhere, but i have a problem with YOU false advertising and saying that you are not a pay-to-win server, because that is quite literally exactly what you are, you are selling level 90 weapons for not just one... But ALL of the combat styles while still having the nerve to say that you're not a "Pay-to-win scheme" like stop lying. Can i get some honesty here? Like can i? Is that too much to ask? And you say that "I Apologize if someone ever thought we're having some false advertisements" no its not that I or WE, Think or Thought that there's some false advertising going on, we are not "Thinking" that, that is quite literally whats happening here, you are saying that you are not "Pay-to-win scheme" yet you still sell level 90 weapons, as for the limit on them, i could not care less, in fact it makes absolutely no difference to me, you could have unlimited stock on them and it would be the same exact thing for me, you are selling basically 11 seismic sets, 11 ascension sets, 11 drygore sets and spawning them in-game for some donations, making the value of those items be worth less than they would be if someone were to go to those bosses and grind out those items by putting in a lot of effort, and instead of using excuses like "Oh its good that the high level items are in-game so that people can kill those bosses" well if you can't kill those bosses with the lower tier equipment, doesn't that just mean that maybe you should adjust them or add filler items such as level 85 god wars items or Ports armours and or weapons, how is it fair that you should only be able to kill the bosses if you donate for the weapons? that doesn't make any sense for a server claiming to not be a "Pay-to-win scheme"

All in all, that is just my thoughts on the this whole situation of false advertising, sorry to hear about your car crash and i hope you're doing well and getting better soon, and i do like the server, and i want to help it in whatever i can and i see the Pay-to-win scheme that is going on as very much a negative thing and as false advertisement.

I logged on the server the other day again and i was looking for some bugs and or issues that could be abused and reporting them to the moderator, and i remember logging in on the server at the very early stages and my usernames were "Divine, Elysian, Spectral, Arcane" and i discovered that the store prices were messed up and i was able to buy things for like 500k and sell for 5m, and i let you know about it instantly and it got resolved, so i do like and care for the server, i'm just pretty disappointed in the pay-to-win scheme that is going on, that's all

Originally Posted by The Japan

Can i get some honesty here? Like can i? Is that too much to ask?

The Swedish thotty that runs the server is actually a dude from Egypt. You're not going to get much honesty from a server whose owner is catfishing the playerbase. GWD2 is leeched from Ataraxia and most of the perks on the donator store are pretty much directly ripped too.

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voting event as server update? dont waste you time on this server lol

Originally Posted by _Triage

The Swedish thotty that runs the server is actually a dude from Egypt. You're not going to get much honesty from a server whose owner is catfishing the playerbase. GWD2 is leeched from Ataraxia and most of the perks on the donator store are pretty much directly ripped too.

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