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    Ah... so there is a business model. I didn't realise that. I thought it would've been something for the community, but I suppose it's another attempt of a cash grab. Nobody in their right mind would want to involve a third, possibly untrustworthy, party to play an RSPS. It will only increase the chance of getting malware on their pc. Nevertheless I like your client design and wish you best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiousity View Post
    Ah... so there is a business model. I didn't realise that. I thought it would've been something for the community, but I suppose it's another attempt of a cash grab. Nobody in their right mind would want to involve a third, possibly untrustworthy, party to play an RSPS. It will only increase the chance of getting malware on their pc. Nevertheless I like your client design and wish you best of luck.
    Yes, servers will be able to feature themselves on a carousel and purchase very limited advertisements. Players will have a free experience, meaning they won't have to buy anything to use it!
    Thanks for the kind words.
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    I'm not sure you'll find many big servers use a launcher like this, I know that Ikov & Zaros wouldn't even use someone elses launcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiousity View Post
    Ah... so there is a business model. I didn't realise that. I thought it would've been something for the community, but I suppose it's another attempt of a cash grab. Nobody in their right mind would want to involve a third, possibly untrustworthy, party to play an RSPS. It will only increase the chance of getting malware on their pc. Nevertheless I like your client design and wish you best of luck.
    "cash grab"... Of course! People need to earn money of the software they make. He needs to make money, you need to make money, I need to make money. But I wouldn't call it a cash grab.

    The idea of Runelist as a whole is very good and is well put together! Good job
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrClassic View Post
    "cash grab"... Of course! People need to earn money of the software they make. He needs to make money, you need to make money, I need to make money. But I wouldn't call it a cash grab.

    The idea of Runelist as a whole is very good and is well put together! Good job

    Thanks a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrClassic View Post
    "cash grab"... Of course! People need to earn money of the software they make. He needs to make money, you need to make money, I need to make money. But I wouldn't call it a cash grab.

    The idea of Runelist as a whole is very good and is well put together! Good job
    Did you read the extremely bold statements that are made in the first (and 7th) paragraph of this thread? After I and others inquired him about these statement he came across like someone that poorly thought out how he would handle the safety of this client. If he doesn't have the knowledge (or effort) to keep his users safe I don't see any reason to use this client. It only makes me more worried as another party is involved in the process of playing an RSPS. The reason I call it a cash grab is because the only thing it seems to be is a fancy looking client. Unless you're too lazy to open a browser, I wouldn't see the benefit.

    Yes I see potential in the idea, but the execution seems really poor to me.

    The project would be interesting for integretiy and safety of the users if it had a well thought out safety plan. The only thing I read however is 'virus scan'. I mean every Windows users has a built in virus scanner so what does that mean? Why don't you make an actual plan. Maybe involve a custom java agent that checks all processes that are accessed and files that are created by the client. Maybe make some kind of patcher or java agent that blocks malicious method calls from an RSPS. Maybe tell server owners that want to be enlisted in your program they can't use DLL's for example (maybe controversial or stupid but just an idea), since they are virus prone. There are so many things I regard better than a 'virus scan'. Maybe create your own RSPS sandbox in a way. Bragging about security and defending it with 'virus scan' seems really lazy to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiousity View Post
    Did you read the extremely bold statements that are made in the first (and 7th) paragraph of this thread? After I and others inquired him about these statement he came across like someone that poorly thought out how he would handle the safety of this client. If he doesn't have the knowledge (or effort) to keep his users safe I don't see any reason to use this client. It only makes me more worried as another party is involved in the process of playing an RSPS. The reason I call it a cash grab is because the only thing it seems to be is a fancy looking client. Unless you're too lazy to open a browser, I wouldn't see the benefit.

    Yes I see potential in the idea, but the execution seems really poor to me.

    The project would be interesting for integretiy and safety of the users if it had a well thought out safety plan. The only thing I read however is 'virus scan'. I mean every Windows users has a built in virus scanner so what does that mean? Why don't you make an actual plan. Maybe involve a custom java agent that checks all processes that are accessed and files that are created by the client. Maybe make some kind of patcher or java agent that blocks malicious method calls from an RSPS. Maybe tell server owners that want to be enlisted in your program they can't use DLL's for example (maybe controversial or stupid but just an idea), since they are virus prone. There are so many things I regard better than a 'virus scan'. Maybe create your own RSPS sandbox in a way. Bragging about security and defending it with 'virus scan' seems really lazy to me.
    What stops you getting a virus when you download clients via your browser then, all it takes is someone to hack their server and replace the client with an infected version.

    This will download files onto your PC, which the Windows Security will scan as you mentioned, this is what a lot of people just rely on to keep them safe, the fact this will also be scanning using other sometimes more reliable scanners.

    I really don't see the security risk with this, you get the exact same security with this as you would downloading any other file onto your PC, with the bonus of an extra scan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IR Developer View Post
    What stops you getting a virus when you download clients via your browser then, all it takes is someone to hack their server and replace the client with an infected version.

    This will download files onto your PC, which the Windows Security will scan as you mentioned, this is what a lot of people just rely on to keep them safe, the fact this will also be scanning using other sometimes more reliable scanners.

    I really don't see the security risk with this, you get the exact same security with this as you would downloading any other file onto your PC, with the bonus of an extra scan?
    You involve an extra party to download an RSPS. That in itself is the extra security risk. The extra party is hungry for money and can built in whatever they want into their client. E.g. they are able to take the accounts of all their users if they don't enjoy their project anymore. They are not open source and provide little to no transparency or are extremely vague when you ask them about their ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiousity View Post
    You involve an extra party to download an RSPS. That in itself is the extra security risk. The extra party is hungry for money and can built in whatever they want into their client. E.g. they are able to take the accounts of all their users if they don't enjoy their project anymore. They are not open source and provide little to no transparency or are extremely vague when you ask them about their ways.
    "The extra party is hungry for money and can built in whatever they want into their client." Lol. Why do you think this if I may ask?
    Why shall we ruin the community we build so far, by "taking accounts"? What you are saying are all assumptions, false assumptions.
    Also, we will document the "way" of virus protection, once its fully developed. No need to be transparent about the development of the security, since its not finished at all.
    So once we will have an fully developed beta version, we will come with an statement about the security of the launcher.

    EDIT: We also try to answer all questions..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiousity View Post
    You involve an extra party to download an RSPS. That in itself is the extra security risk. The extra party is hungry for money and can built in whatever they want into their client. E.g. they are able to take the accounts of all their users if they don't enjoy their project anymore. They are not open source and provide little to no transparency or are extremely vague when you ask them about their ways.
    Downloading and launching a client through a 3rd party launcher does not give them access to your RSPS accounts, unless your idiotic enough to use the same passwords on everything. The launcher afaik is being coded in java and can easily be decompiled to check whether it's safe or not if your really that worried.

    If you trust your anti-virus to keep you safe as far as rsps clients are concerned, why do you suddenly not trust it for a launcher
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