Thread: Java versus C#

please don't format c# code like you're doing java. it looks so stupid.

Originally Posted by Bobster

people beleiving there is actually any difference alltogether.

FYI

there the same thing

you don't know what you're talking about. they're definitely not the same thing. if anything, c# is ahead because it's actively developed (more active than java from what i've seen) and microsoft's goal is to make a superior, easy to use programming language that can be used for rapid application development.

Originally Posted by 'Drain

Didnt Sun microsystems win a lawsuit with microsoft because of how C# was so similar to Java

you're thinking about j# back in visual studio 2005

Originally Posted by Mister Maggot

I ise Ubuntu and Gnome 2. Switching to openbox soon tho.

Only tried linux once, never got used to it. :L

I'm going pick apart your post.

Originally Posted by Trollingfaces

Please Note:
-This is my first informative thread.
-I'm not the best of programmers.
-I'm fairly new to c#
-Please don't flame.

Misinformation isn't considered informative.

Much of the rsps community is based around Java, it is the main (default?) language for building runescape emulators.

Default is not the word you are looking for.

The bonus with Java is that it can be used at any platform

Yo dog, mono.

making it very versatile amongst developers and platform is a major issue within developing applications.

Not really? You don't choose C++ to make websites with it. Each language has its place. You don't have to have just one language do one specific thing.

Everyone has used a java application before (if you havn't then >.>). Java is a mature language and has been with us for quite a while and has served us well for quite some time. Yet when we are developing we always look towards performance of our applications. We continually make changes to our code to make it smaller and more proficient.

Proficient isn't the word you're looking for. Efficient, maybe?

Now C# is a new and modern programming language made by microsoft (duh). Now when I usually see people's reactions to c# on here it's usually, "c# is a shit rip off java", well java is based on C so I wouldn't be talking.

No language is a rip off of any other language.

You may call it a rip of java because in a way it is. The real issue between the war of languages is the versatility of the language, in other words, what platform it runs on.

Not platform.

Java is very versatile whereas c# is stuck with ms based OS's. There are microsoft haters out there, so I won't comment.

Windows operating systems. Not "MS" based operating systems, not "Windows based" either. Windows.

What microsoft have done with c# is to create a language that cuts down development time

has done*

by reducing the time consuming factors of memory management, type safety, libraries etc.

Higher level languages tend to do that...

What they have done is taken Java and "removed this", "added that", "oh, lets make this a bit better". This way they have created a language which could be called "better" than java.

They didn't "take java" and sit around thinking of ways to make it better. Just because it's syntax is similar doesn't mean that they necessarily had Java in mind while creating it.

but when we look otherwise, c# just makes your life simpler.

wat.

Like in getting and setting

Accessors and mutators?

Java:

Code:

public int getTroll() {
	return troll;
}

public void setTroll (int face) {
	troll = face;
}

Nothing really wrong with this except for your inconsistent formatting.

whereas in c#

Code:

public int Size {
	get {return size;
	}
	set {size = value;
	}
}

Terrible formatting tbqh.

in c# it is inherited wheras in java you have to continually maintain this.

again, wat.

Anyways, overall which language you choose is up to you..

No. Use brainfuck or you will be slain.

I take it you're very enthusiastic about this topic...

Originally Posted by Supah Fly

Not really? You don't choose C++ to make websites with it. Each language has its place. You don't have to have just one language do one specific thing.

(For the sake of argument, let's say C# is only supported on Windows.) What the hell has that got to do with it? It's a valid point by him. If C# isn't very portable, it's a disadvantage. "Each language has its place" is irrelevant here considering not everyone developing RSPSs use Windows.

Originally Posted by Supah Fly

I'm going pick apart your post.




Misinformation isn't considered informative.



Default is not the word you are looking for.



Yo dog, mono.



Not really? You don't choose C++ to make websites with it. Each language has its place. You don't have to have just one language do one specific thing.



Proficient isn't the word you're looking for. Efficient, maybe?



No language is a rip off of any other language.



Not platform.



Windows operating systems. Not "MS" based operating systems, not "Windows based" either. Windows.



has done*



Higher level languages tend to do that...



They didn't "take java" and sit around thinking of ways to make it better. Just because it's syntax is similar doesn't mean that they necessarily had Java in mind while creating it.



wat.



Accessors and mutators?



Nothing really wrong with this except for your inconsistent formatting.



Terrible formatting tbqh.



again, wat.



No. Use brainfuck or you will be slain.

Im not the fucking genius programmer, if you want to make comments why don't you just say im fucking shit? That way i would accept it.

Originally Posted by iKilem

I take it you're very enthusiastic about this topic...

If you're directing that towards me, yes. C# is awesome, and so is Java.

(For the sake of argument, let's say C# is only supported on Windows.) What the hell has that got to do with it? It's a valid point by him. If C# isn't very portable, it's a disadvantage. "Each language has its place" is irrelevant here considering not everyone developing RSPSs use Windows.

Alright but you don't have to use Windows and ignoring that fact is kind of stupid. You also don't have to use it to make private servers.

I favor the straight-forwardness of Visual Studio. You create a new project, it runs. That's it.

If you're planning on making a game, C# can be a good option. Terraria is made in C#, I think.

Java is also kind of limited with what they can add to their API because they have to make it work on all systems all the time. C# has the potential to have more features and run faster for a Windows operating system because it's specifically made for it. Microsoft adds support for a lot of things they've made right out of the box. They also have great documentation and examples for literally everything.

Originally Posted by Trollingfaces

Im not the fucking genius programmer, if you want to make comments why don't you just say im fucking shit? That way i would accept it.

That time of the month? Holy shit, don't flip out.

Originally Posted by super_

Introduction to C++ CGI by Guy Rutenberg

I said you wouldn't. It's not really practical.

I mean, really, Facebook uses PHP. If they can get by just using PHP, I'm pretty sure everyone else can.