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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    You're being far too logical for trump supporters mate. The guy isn't even a politician, what does he know about policy? Trump and his supporters are the exact opposite of real American ideals, or at least the facade which I was lead to believe in initially. You cannot reason with them... they're too far gone. I seriously think the guy has caused irreparable damage to our society. There's no way to just forget about everyone and everything that came out of the woodwork. The absolute shit stains of America support this man and that's it.

    Sorry Canada but you don't know what it's like living in a country with these people. I'm just relieved that I'm white and don't have to deal with real America, where you have to live in fear if you're a minority.

    this crazy guy put it best:

    Yeah King Waldo makes some excellent point about what is 'reasonable' but what US politicians are is anything but that. I think the worst is they clearly play on the division for popularity, which just polarises society further. Look how often Trump says he does things to 'annoy the left'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Project View Post
    Everything you're (Andrew lol) imaging will happen will never happen. Put back on your tinfoil hat, take a step outside, turn off CNN. In order for all of this to happen it'd require all of the congress, the house, senators etc to fall in order under Trump, and then you'll have to get the military to happily fall in line as well. Our government is designed the way it is to prevent dictatorship. I can't stop myself from laughing at the time you've invested in camping this thread all day to defend your opinion that literally no one cares about. Go get a job at CNN you goof.

    for the record, anyone in government is corrupt, this includes Trump, Biden, Congress, EVERYONE. You're throwing pebbles at a stone wall here.

    It is pretty clear you don't know the extent of the capabilities the president has.

    I hope you know in scenarios of society, where pandemics have been declared, the president has the full authority to declare marshal law.

    Do you know anything about the DHS abductions that were being done to protestors & random civilians?

    Oh but i bet you also don't know that same group (DHS) whom were court-ordered to not perform anymore random abductions continued to do so?

    Oh but i also bet you don't know that Trump has declared certain states Anarchist states? [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Do you know that those states now have to go through DHS to gain more federal funding? Meaning the federal govt. is not allocating the funds anymore, but DHS is allocating as a surrogate for them?

    Welcome to the new age of Secret Policing in a disguised manner.


    You really have absolute no clue of anything that is occurring. The states are pushing back, the people are fighting back, we will not stand for this absurdity.

    And Frankly anything related to a tinfoil is just remarkably hilarious to me, considering you shared a random video for us all to see that stated the exact opposite of what your argument was, but that's okay Project,

    You know why? Because you can be a flatearther-kool-aid drinking nazi-worshipper because it's 2020.

    Do you think anyone would think a wounded soldier from WW1 would turn to an individual whom would attempt to reign supreme world leader of the world and kill the very soldiers that he fought side against while committing mass genocide?

    Also don't hit me with that "CNN" fake news rhetoric, because frankly this entire discussion is based off of the PRESIDENTS OWN WORDS, nothing else, but if you want to get into specifics of anything, I will gladly share with you my primary resources which I highly suggest you begin reading, rather than your Alex Jones Breitbart fake distorted news.

    Go read some:

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    And Mix this in with your regular media to get a balanced viewpoint.

    You are all blindly following a leader, while drinking kool-aid knowing it has poison inside of it.

    & honestly the most disappointing observation of this thread, is that the title literally states that Trump is a dictator and all of you on the list just blindly swallow it not knowing what you're ingesting for future generations to experience and that is horrifying to see.

    Hindsight is 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    Best option was Bernie, but I'm siding with trump.
    The worst part of this comment is the fact that I know people who are saying the same exact rhetoric, and it just goes to show the following extremism has gained, and frankly this is scarier than Jhidast extremism.

    Welcome to the listen Kraken. Also Jordan Belfort, welcome to the list Mr.Wolf of wall street, kind of ironic that Big Banks such as Goldman Sachs project a stronger economy under Biden than Trump, oh but don't take their word for it, Moody's Analytics is reporting the same (whom were spot on about the last 4 years of the economy).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Belfort View Post
    Truth be told -- we're fucked no matter what brainless puppet they stick in the white house, lol. At the risk of sounding super tin-foil-hat enabled, there's a greater agenda at plan and the political face that is chosen to carry out said agenda is negligible in comparison.

    I can appreciate you voicing your opinion, because it is your right to do so, but idk what you expected posting it on Rune-Server.
    There is no TinFoil Here. Go pick up a book and read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Idk what 4d chess logic is going on in that man's head but how you can swing from Bernie to Trump is impressive.
    frightening* not impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by La Lela Lalel View Post
    Country is fucked regardless
    Then stay out of it, and don't vote. Get out of the Anarchist state of mind, we are not at the stage yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by King Waldo View Post
    As a Canadian, I am terrified of how divided America is these days. I don't want a civil war to spill over the border, and we sure as hell won't be able to handle the number of asylum claims. This isn't 1860 no more; this'll be far uglier than Syria. Rather than play into your divisiveness, I have four questions for Trump supporters:

    • What policies of his drew you to him?

    • Has he successfully implemented these policies?

    • What policies of his do you oppose?

    • What measurable impact have his policies had on your life and on the lives of those close to you?

    I absolutely hate the way political discourse in America encourages people to talk past each other rather than directly to one another. You see it in this thread: You're a Nazi! You're brainwashed! On the list you go! Why aren't you asking each other what compels you to fall on your side? How are you supposed to understand your "adversaries" (can't you all be Americans again?) if you don't even ask them what *they* think? By pushing people away, you're only reinforcing their existing beliefs and making it harder to ever reach out to them in the future. Take a page from [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the Black man who persuaded KKK members out of being racist. You'll never persuade someone that you're right by starting the discussion with name-calling. I usually hate this "both sides" bullshit, but as far as destructive discourse goes, both sides are to blame.

    The time to compel to other individuals has shipped and sailed in 2016 and has only grown since.

    The balance of powers are what to blame. The checks and balances that were put in place are filled with loopholes, vulnerabilities, and terrible rhetoric, but that's what occurs when an entire nation is founded on Mass-Genocide to Natives in the name of "Freedom" and "Christianity"

    And for anyone interested in the discussion of the "Muslim Travel Ban" Here is a pretty good synopsis on it [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] with some data
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    Is wanting to stay on for longer than eight years all it takes to be considered a dictator by you? If so someone might want to remove Angela Merkel from Germany as it has descended into fascism again.

    Look I don't like the guy, but we will find out if he is a dictator or not shortly. If he does not respect the election that will make him a dictator. If he loses and gracefully exits he can't be considered a dictator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Is wanting to stay on for longer than eight years all it takes to be considered a dictator by you? If so someone might want to remove Angela Merkel from Germany as it has descended into fascism again.

    Look I don't like the guy, but we will find out if he is a dictator or not shortly. If he does not respect the election that will make him a dictator. If he loses and gracefully exits he can't be considered a dictator.
    A "Dictator" is defined as : "a ruler with total power over a country".

    We currently have processes in-place to govern our society.

    Trumps attempted actions to undermine our very system is exactly what will lead to a Monarch (which in itself is a form of Dictatorship).

    You do not threaten the American people with your power. Which Trump has done-so repeatably with his claims of Article 2, which essentially gives him Full-Power over the United States.

    The biggest irony out of it, is his initial campaign, was for "drain the swamp" but instead of draining it out, he has filled the swamp even more

    Welcome to a Monarch in the making
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    A "Dictator" is defined as : "a ruler with total power over a country".

    We currently have processes in-place to govern our society.

    Trumps attempted actions to undermine our very system is exactly what will lead to a Monarch (which in itself is a form of Dictatorship).

    You do not threaten the American people with your power. Which Trump has done-so repeatably with his claims of Article 2, which essentially gives him Full-Power over the United States.

    The biggest irony out of it, is his initial campaign, was for "drain the swamp" but instead of draining it out, he has filled the swamp even more

    Welcome to a Monarch in the making
    Monarchy and dictatorship are not actually the same you know. For a start there is a distinction between absolute monarchy and constitutional monarchy. Constitutional monarchy is the one we have in Britain, Belgium, Denmark and the Netherlands for example. Hardly dictatorships are they?

    Secondly describing a monarchy as a dictatorship is a bit anachronistic, monarchies ruled with the consent of the aristocracy (whether the church or feudal leaders). Dictatorships use mass party systems (like the Nazis, Bolsheviks or Italian fascists). Monarchies also rule by lineage, the power stays in the family for generations.

    Trump absolutely does not have total power over the country, that power resides in the sovereign, which in the case of the US are the American people themselves as represented in Congress. So long as there is a functional, democratically elected Congress you cannot describe the US as a dictatorship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Monarchy and dictatorship are not actually the same you know. For a start there is a distinction between absolute monarchy and constitutional monarchy. Constitutional monarchy is the one we have in Britain, Belgium, Denmark and the Netherlands for example. Hardly dictatorships are they?

    Secondly describing a monarchy as a dictatorship is a bit anachronistic, monarchies ruled with the consent of the aristocracy (whether the church or feudal leaders). Dictatorships use mass party systems (like the Nazis, Bolsheviks or Italian fascists). Monarchies also rule by lineage, the power stays in the family for generations.

    Trump absolutely does not have total power over the country, that power resides in the sovereign, which in the case of the US are the American people themselves as represented in Congress. So long as there is a functional, democratically elected Congress you cannot describe the US as a dictatorship.
    And what you are seeing today is a distinct mix of using mass-party systems, while using monarchies that formed from Aristocrats.

    "Constitutional Monarchy" is just a watered down version of what I define as a "True Monarch", and given the fact that England is notoriously renowned for its Imperialistic Routes globally, from all over Africa, India, Asia, Europe, and frankly even the United States, considering our nation's founded Routes are based in origin from Great Britain, I wouldn't say there is anything to "Benefit" from a Monarch, but the whole "constitutional monarch" example, could easily be aligned with the equivalency of China's form of Communism, which isn't direct Communism, but contains aspects of Dictatorships, Communism, Totalitarianism, et al.

    There is no Place for Kings and Queens in society today, sorry to say.

    We can take a look at a period of time though where Monarch's ruled the land, and that would be the only other Era I would live in (Hellenistic Era) with Alexander the Great, and frankly, as advanced as we were back then, I would still choose to live in this Era where Monarchs do not rule the land in which we are governed.

    I also really recommend you reading about what "Executives Orders" are "Article 2", and everything else in between that the President has full capabilities of doing so.

    it is frankly a mere choice that congress has to be involved because of how our laws are governed.

    Anything that is in question goes to the Supreme Court, and with a 3:2 ruling of Republicans anything can be deemed as constitutional you need to recognize there is a de-balance of power within our system of Congress, House, Supreme, WH and everything in-between.

    Trump has the full backing of Republicans in Congress & the Supreme Court so he can just use it to his advantage to push any form of agenda, without it seeming out of the ordinary.

    What is very interesting to see, is that Congress is now putting forth a bill for them to be able to directly remove any president they so choose [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (to limit the power of the president) but this also has backfiring implications as well.

    But understand there is no certainty with our power.

    Remember, Hitler was elected into office, Mousilini on the other hand took power himself through a coupe. (which is also still possible to occur, as Trump is on the PUBLIC RECORD once again on, when it comes to leaving office if he loses, where he is avoiding the question as poorly as he did when it comes to denouncing supremacy )
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    negged all trump supporters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    And what you are seeing today is a distinct mix of using mass-party systems, while using monarchies that formed from Aristocrats.

    "Constitutional Monarchy" is just a watered down version of what I define as a "True Monarch", and given the fact that England is notoriously renowned for its Imperialistic Routes globally, from all over Africa, India, Asia, Europe, and frankly even the United States, considering our nation's founded Routes are based in origin from Great Britain, I wouldn't say there is anything to "Benefit" from a Monarch, but the whole "constitutional monarch" example, could easily be aligned with the equivalency of China's form of Communism, which isn't direct Communism, but contains aspects of Dictatorships, Communism, Totalitarianism, et al.

    There is no Place for Kings and Queens in society today, sorry to say.

    We can take a look at a period of time though where Monarch's ruled the land, and that would be the only other Era I would live in (Hellenistic Era) with Alexander the Great, and frankly, as advanced as we were back then, I would still choose to live in this Era where Monarchs do not rule the land in which we are governed.

    I also really recommend you reading about what "Executives Orders" are "Article 2", and everything else in between that the President has full capabilities of doing so.

    it is frankly a mere choice that congress has to be involved because of our laws are governed.

    Anything that is in question goes to the Supreme Court, and with a 3:2 ruling of Republicans anything can be deemed as constitutional you need to recognize there is a de-balance of power within our system of Congress, House, Supreme, WH and everything in-between
    It is the role of the Supreme Court to uphold the rule of law and the constitution, but it is the people who are sovereign, and they are represented in the US Congress. In so far as the SC has a law-making capacity, it is restricted to the creation of legal precedent, in systems like the US statutory law is pre-eminent. There is a hierarchy if you will, the legislative acts of Congress come first (legislature), these are implemented by the President who has some discretion over their implementation and has other secondary powers (executive) which are determined lawful and in compliance with statute by the Court (judiciary). The Congress monitors all of this closely.

    If anything your dysfunctional democracy in the US is making the case of European monarchies stronger. I would rather a peaceful monarchy than a dysfunctional democracy or any other dysfunctional system of government.

    And might I point out that imperialism has no relation to the system of government in question. Britain was (and arguably is) imperialistic. So is the United States. You guys colonised the Philippines you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    negged all trump supporters

    lmk if i forgot anyone. Have to wait 24 hours
    If I could rep I would

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    It is the role of the Supreme Court to uphold the rule of law and the constitution, but it is the people who are sovereign, and they are represented in the US Congress. In so far as the SC has a law-making capacity, it is restricted to the creation of legal precedent, in systems like the US statutory law is pre-eminent. There is a hierarchy if you will, the legislative acts of Congress come first (legislature), these are implemented by the President (executive) which are determined lawful and in compliance with statute by the Court (judiciary).

    If anything your dysfunctional democracy in the US is making the case of European monarchies stronger. I would rather a peaceful monarchy than a dysfunctional democracy or any other dysfunctional system of government.

    And might I point out that imperialism has no relation to the system of government in question. Britain was (and arguably is) imperialistic. So is the United States. You guys colonised the Philippines you know?
    We can take a look at levels of Imperialism if you would like, I have absolutely no problem with pointing out all the flaws of the US's involvement with Imperialism; but if you want some non US-Views.

    Your country still has pieces of the Parthenon that belong to Greece and your nation REFUSES to return them, which you had conquered and stolen from us.

    Don't even dare try to compare the History of England to the US when it comes Imperialism; they are way different scales, and the scale of England was a direct relation to the size of your nations Monarch that controlled a vast majority of the world.

    India is a really great example of this.

    The US Constitution is up for interpretation and can be used, argued, in any-way see fit.

    It is clear you don't have a strong-enough understanding of the history of what the supreme-court has ruled, what our congress has done, what our house of representatives has done, and what our president and past presidents have done.

    I love this video



    (dont take it as a grail or anything more than some standup and if you know some history it will be humorous)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
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    We can take a look at levels of Imperialism if you would like, I have absolutely no problem with pointing out all the flaws of the US's involvement with Imperialism; but if you want some non US-Views.

    Your country still has pieces of the Parthenon that belong to Greece and your nation REFUSES to return them, which you had conquered and stolen from us.

    Don't even dare try to compare the History of England to the US when it comes Imperialism; they are way different scales, and the scale of England was a direct relation to the size of your nations Monarch that controlled a vast majority of the world.

    India is a really great example of this.
    The scale of imperialism means nothing to the individual people concerned. The Philippine people you colonised care very little about British involvement in India. Your logic was that imperialism was something that democracies like the US did not do, when clearly they do and have done since their very existence. The US is also the largest military power in the world. Do you think its overseas military bases do not in some form constitute a form of imperialism? Because I do. But even looking historically the US had plenty of colonies, in fact you might even call it a failed colonial power because it wanted more colonies but failed to acquire them.

    The Parthenon is a building. I think you mean the Parthenon Marbles. Every museum in the world has stuff from every other country, the belief that the country of origin has any particular claim to them is jingoistic nonsense.
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