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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Wtf was that question about exploiting animals lmao
    "Humans should neither eat nor exploit animals."

    if u disagree fuck u basically
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    "Humans should neither eat nor exploit animals."

    if u disagree fuck u basically
    Just an incredibly loaded question, 'exploiting animals' makes it sound like conflating meat eating with animal abuse, which I guess while some people do have that view there really should have been a middle ground drawn between people who just hate animals and those who are vegans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Just an incredibly loaded question, 'exploiting animals' makes it sound like conflating meat eating with animal abuse, which I guess while some people do have that view there really should have been a middle ground drawn between people who just hate animals and those who are vegans?
    there is no middle ground, lol. You either contribute to animal abuse by consuming animal products or you don't. Eating meat/animal products doesn't inherently make u a bad person but refusing to acknowledge the atrocities of the animal agriculture industry is inherently bad. No matter how you put it, if you have any sort of reasonable moral compass you'd agree that humans shouldn't exploit animals, especially because they don't have to.

    cows are cute af bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    there is no middle ground, lol. You either contribute to animal abuse by consuming animal products or you don't. Eating meat/animal products doesn't inherently make u a bad person but refusing to acknowledge the atrocities of the animal agriculture industry is inherently bad. No matter how you put it, if you have any sort of reasonable moral compass you'd agree that humans shouldn't exploit animals, especially because they don't have to.

    cows are cute af bro
    Cows wouldn't even exist if we didn't domesticate them for consumption, unless you believe they would survive in the wild?

    There is a fine line between people who hate animals and people who consume meat... Vegans don't do themselves any favours suggesting there is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Cows wouldn't even exist if we didn't domesticate them for consumption, unless you believe they would survive in the wild?
    uh yeah i believe a cow can survive in the wild, just like every other animal...? It's really not a hard concept to grasp. Animals live in the wild.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    There is a fine line between people who hate animals and people who consume meat... Vegans don't do themselves any favours suggesting there is not.
    i just said that "Eating meat/animal products doesn't inherently make u a bad person"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    uh yeah i believe a cow can survive in the wild, just like every other animal...? It's really not a hard concept to grasp. Animals live in the wild.



    i just said that
    Those animals lived in the wild. Cows have been domesticated for thousands of years. What evolutionary advantages do you think a farm cow is going to have to survive by itself now? I don't see how these cows would survive in somewhere like India for example, where there are larger predators. And even if so what do you do with all of the current cows? Release them on the m5?

    * India is probably a bad example. The cow is considered sacred so they have more protection than most countries, but in most parts of the world they are nothing more than for consumption. Without this demand they die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Those animals lived in the wild. Cows have been domesticated for thousands of years. What evolutionary advantages do you think a farm cow is going to have to survive by itself now? I don't see how these cows would survive in somewhere like India for example, where there are larger predators. And even if so what do you do with all of the current cows? Release them on the m5?
    obviously a domesticated animal cannot live in the wild, that's what domestication does to them. If they weren't domesticated so humans could exploit them in the first place they would have been just fine. You wouldn't just throw your dog out in the wild and expect him to survive alone.

    bro mostly every wild animal has larger predators lmfao. ur acting like im suggesting to free all 1 billion+ of the cows on the planet.

    everything you've brought up is a result of cows being domesticated for your consumption, further supporting my original point that animal exploitation is bad.

    cows dying in india lmfao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    obviously a domesticated animal cannot live in the wild, that's what domestication does to them. If they weren't domesticated so humans could exploit them in the first place they would have been just fine. You wouldn't just throw your dog out in the wild and expect him to survive alone.

    bro literally every wild animal has larger predators lmfao. ur acting like im suggesting to free all 1 billion+ of the cows on the planet.

    everything you've brought up is a result of cows being domesticated for your consumption, further supporting my original point that animal exploitation is bad.

    cows dying in india lmfao
    Sorry what are you suggesting we do with the billion cows that we aren't going to eat ? Send them on an all inclusive holiday to Spain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Cape View Post
    Sorry what are you suggesting we do with the billion cows that we aren't going to eat ? Send them on an all inclusive holiday to Spain?
    bro u think animals cant survive in the wild stfu

    i gave u a pass for that stupid india shit u said but ur pushing it now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women View Post
    bro u think animals cant survive in the wild stfu

    i gave u a pass for that stupid india shit u said but ur pushing it now
    So you don't have an explanation. You want us to release up to a billion cows in the wild, most will die. We could always have a ban on breeding more and releasing them gradually?

    Idk what's so controversial about what I said. Go release your dog in the wild and see how long he lasts - is his quality of life really better than when you looked after him?

    Farm animals will become extinct or have worse quality of life than they do now because they are too dependent on us.

    Fyi India has tigers and cows die all the time.
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