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    Hey all! Long time lurker, first time poster, yada yada

    In short, i just tried to send a DM and im not seeing it in my "sent" folder so im wondering if maybe theres some spam/bot prevention going on since i never posted?

    I DM'd @Noele but would be happy to chat w anyone who can help answer some basic questions about how exactly all these private servers work. I'm part of a team thats intent on doing something pretty huge w an OSRS private server, but we're looking to get some basic pointers for where to start. We arent trying to do anything fancy or modded, in fact, any vanilla version of OSRS between now and its re-release would work perfectly. Maybe even OG RS2 builds. We just need the GE. Polling would also be nice though. From our research it seems there's limited options, ScapeRune and maybe one other being fleshed out to a reasonable extent. But even then, we're not sure if this is accurate, and if it is, if it's even what were looking for at all.

    Thanks all!
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    you need to change the settings in the Settings page (cba to find it for you), and no one ever helps via pm anymore, its not 2012. Post in the right section and wait or fix yourself.
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    Found it!
    Thanks.

    And will do. Does it seem like we're on the right track? Would something like scaperune be what we're looking for? I assume we'd have to work out a private deal w them for a copy of the game code? Or would something like Valius maybe suite our needs?

    Is a fully fleshed out, 100% accurate to RS (maybe not modern rs rn, but at somepoint in time) private server even a thing? To be clear, we want to host and modify our own, not join one.
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    100% accurate to RS servers dont exist. Maybe 10% at most and even that's a stretch
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    I don't know any releases available that are "good" and accurate to osrs.
    The best developers and teams often start projects from scratch to achieve this as best they can. (And even still, theres plenty of shortcutting and speculation to save as much time as possible)

    As for where to start, perhaps someone better than me can recommend you something.

    GE would most likely need to be built from scratch OR you take the route of the trading post as the Grand Exchange may fail with rsps's simply having lower trade volumes than osrs and you can manipulate shit to death.
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    To clear up your question - "how exactly all these private servers work" : The short answer is, it's a common misconception that private servers are just blatant copies of jagex's code. In noob terms: while this is mostly true when it comes to the client, the server side of things (all of the handling of the client actions / content including boss mechanics, skills, minigames etc etc) are all written 'from scratch' (code that jagex mostly had nothing to do with).

    As Corey said, 100% accurate servers aren't a thing due to the sheer scale of content that would need to be written and implemented, nobody has ever got close. There are / have been emulation servers that have a near identical feel to the era of runescape that they were emulating, but with a fraction of the content.

    The majority of emulation projects rarely even get to the hosting stage simply due to the developers getting burnt out / losing interest due to the huge task they undertook.
    If you want to start your own then you'd need to be familiar with the protocol that you wish to use, how packets work and so on.

    "To be clear, we want to host and modify our own, not join one" - if you're just starting out I'd honestly say just check the downloads section and have a look through at what there is to offer and the quality of what currently exists. I'm the same as Neil when it comes to being able to recommend a base as a starting point though, my apologies. I'm sure some will say RSMOD but that's basically a barebones framework and not ideal for beginners.

    What I can say is any base that's been released for free will have bugs, probably won't have a massive amount of content and will definitely need work.

    Anyway enough of my ramblings, hope something from this is somewhat useful for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owain View Post
    What I can say is any base that's been released for free will have bugs,
    We'd be willing to pay. Potentially a lot, what might be the closest to what we're looking for if that barrier is removed?
    In short, we want to bring runescape on-chain. Your characters become NFTs, every item is a token, the GE is DEX, the polling booths are governance for the chains & game updates. And no not any BS like ethereum, it gets its own, dedicated chain, and fees go to devs and validators.

    Sounding like this is a looooong shot though :/.

    We're considering approaching jagex about it, but we know theyd only go for it if they reaped the benefits of it and controlled the chain for it. which defeats much of the purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corey View Post
    100% accurate to RS servers dont exist. Maybe 10% at most and even that's a stretch
    ok this might be suuuuuper dumb. but then why does this forum or communities or private servers exist at all? Out side of fun dev-pet projects?
    I feel like i might be misunderstanding? No way that theres no RS private server w more than 10% of the game implimented? or? if so what's the appeal? Is it that theres maybe only 10% of the base game but plenty of moded content or?

    Also, what if we didn't need it to be OSRS specifically?
    Maybe og rs2, or even rs1? I know the open RS classic works pretty decent, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingk View Post
    ok this might be suuuuuper dumb. but then why does this forum or communities or private servers exist at all?
    Private servers are sorta like time capsules of different periods in runescapes history.

    Naturally, as the years went on runescape did updates that people hated. (The removal of wilderness for example)
    With private servers, you can play your favourite version of the game and it was also free as an extra added bonus.

    They turned out to be quite proftable which was neat.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingk View Post
    We're considering approaching jagex about it, but we know theyd only go for it if they reaped the benefits of it and controlled the chain for it.

    bro what
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilG View Post
    Private servers are sorta like time capsules of different periods in runescapes history.
    Yeah totally get that, but it sounds like highly incomplete ones, yeah? We could work with an older version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingk View Post
    Yeah totally get that, but it sounds like highly incomplete ones, yeah? We could work with an older version.
    Older versions would still be incomplete
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