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    Quote Originally Posted by goblinslayer3 View Post
    haha lol i have nothing better 2 say so i will resort to the standard : _ p

    a point that is debated by scholars and ur extremely ignorant to use that as reasoning for what these people are doing - you're clueless
    Sorry I was being sarcastic, I was responding to your absolutely absurd assumption about Americans with something equally absurd but I guess you're trying to completely ignore the context
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I could write a lengthy post about who is to blame for these attacks but honestly, I am not going to comment on things I do not understand and should not be commenting on. I will say this, however, this is a time of reflection and mourning to all that we have lost over the past 3 months and all that we will lose in the coming months for whatever reason. Instead of saying rest in peace to the British people that have perished instead I will say Rest in peace to every innocent British person slain but also to every innocent Muslim man, woman, and child that have also lost their lives over the past years for nothing and any other race or religion that have also paid the price.

    Justification of lost lives by taking more lives will never right no matter your race or religion. I pray to all the gods not just my own that anyone lost finds peace and happiness in the end.
    You show honour and dignity in the very first sentence, repped.
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    It's crazy, I was in that area the day before it happened! Just goes to show you never know when your time on earth will come to an end!
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    Too many crazy things happening nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    if you think the perpetrators of these attacks are muslim then why does the same thing happen 10 times more frequently to muslims in the east?

    People who use a crime of hate and terror as an excuse to spout their own hateful views do more harm than the attack itself: fear and segregation are the real outcomes all terrorists desire, and those of you who fan the flames are the accomplices.
    Kaleem & other muslim guys, here is a question.
    who is more Muslim, you or Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and ISIS members? you know, they follow all the 5 pillars of Islam religiously. I bet they pray everyday 5 times, and that they memorize every character of the Quran, Hadith & sunnah and you don't.

    According to a biography that circulated on extremist internet forums in July 2013, he obtained a BA, MA, and PhD in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.
    - Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - Wikipedia
    Don't tell me the Islamic state has nothing to do with Islam.
    you know that Jihad and martyrdom is a core tenant of Islam.

    I really hope i'm not being counter productive and radicalizing you right now.

    Islam needs reformation, just like all religions. all religious texts include barbaric texts because they are 1600+ years old and are definitely written by Men (male human beings).

    Major I agree with you IS Islamists want all muslims to be radicalized like them, they call it "the gray majority" in their Dabiq Magazine, But you have to agree with me that Islam needs reformation. stop being such a liberal boy, with these pleasing words, here
    for you, one of the sane liberals, take a listen.

    we should be supporting ONLY the intellectuals, the modernists, the reformists, the secularists, the apostates who are being killed everyday and the oppressed women & gays of the muslim world. these are the people who need to be empowered, so save and dedicate your energy for that.
    these are the people who should be given first ticket to migrate to Europe, not the physically fittest, who can walk thousands of miles & find a boat and hop on it (which are mostly Saharan males), but if they did the Islamic world would be doomed as Harris said in the Video. and any mass migration is bad in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    Kaleem & other muslim guys, here is a question.
    who is more Muslim, you or Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and ISIS members? you know, they follow all the 5 pillars of Islam religiously. I bet they pray everyday 5 times, and that they memorize every character of the Quran, Hadith & sunnah and you don't.
    Define "more Muslim", because you're either a Muslim or you're not. More practicing? I'd of course consider myself more practicing than them. I do pray 5 times a day, I actively read the Quran and Hadeeth, I actively follow the Sunnah, and I'm not bombing peaceful people. nice way to make assumptions tho xd

    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    Don't tell me the Islamic state has nothing to do with Islam.
    you know that Jihad and martyrdom is a core tenant of Islam.
    It doesn't have anything to do with Islam. Judging an ideology by supposed believers who are clearly insane is where you're wrong, and who said we're in a state of Jihad?


    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    Islam needs reformation, just like all religions. all religious texts include barbaric texts because they are 1600+ years old and are definitely written by Men (male human beings).
    What makes you equipped to make such statements? You're another member on a rsps site, not a mufti spending his life pursuing hermeneutics. Make your point, present your evidence, otherwise no1 cares

    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    we should be supporting ONLY the intellectuals, the modernists, the reformists, the secularists, the apostates who are being killed everyday and the oppressed women & gays of the muslim world. these are the people who need to be empowered, so save and dedicate your energy for that.
    these are the people who should be given first ticket to migrate to Europe, not the physically fittest, who can walk thousands of miles & find a boat and hop on it (which are mostly Saharan males), but if they did the Islamic world would be doomed as Harris said in the Video. and any mass migration is bad in general.
    Who's "we"? You're debating on rune-server this aint no Islamic opression forum bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    Kaleem & other muslim guys, here is a question.
    who is more Muslim, you or Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and ISIS members? you know, they follow all the 5 pillars of Islam religiously. I bet they pray everyday 5 times, and that they memorize every character of the Quran, Hadith & sunnah and you don't.

    - Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - Wikipedia
    Don't tell me the Islamic state has nothing to do with Islam.
    you know that Jihad and martyrdom is a core tenant of Islam.

    I really hope i'm not being counter productive and radicalizing you right now.

    Islam needs reformation, just like all religions. all religious texts include barbaric texts because they are 1600+ years old and are definitely written by Men (male human beings).

    Major I agree with you IS Islamists want all muslims to be radicalized like them, they call it "the gray majority" in their Dabiq Magazine, But you have to agree with me that Islam needs reformation. stop being such a liberal boy, with these pleasing words, here
    for you, one of the sane liberals, take a listen.

    we should be supporting ONLY the intellectuals, the modernists, the reformists, the secularists, the apostates who are being killed everyday and the oppressed women & gays of the muslim world. these are the people who need to be empowered, so save and dedicate your energy for that.
    these are the people who should be given first ticket to migrate to Europe, not the physically fittest, who can walk thousands of miles & find a boat and hop on it (which are mostly Saharan males), but if they did the Islamic world would be doomed as Harris said in the Video. and any mass migration is bad in general.
    I'm not Muslim, Middle-Eastern, Kaleem or Ray and I think you're disrespectful as hell and we don't need that on Rune-Server or anywhere.
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    briefly. I have stuff to do.
    you're ignoring and doing mental gymnastics to refute many verses.
    and take a look at the mainstream interpretations already written by the best hermeneutists.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleem View Post
    It doesn't have anything to do with Islam. Judging an ideology by supposed believers who are clearly insane is where you're wrong, and who said we're in a state of Jihad?
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    not a mufti spending his life pursuing hermeneutics.
    ridiculous.
    you expect a mufti who from birth was brainwashed to memorize then pursue studying to become a mufti to reform?
    but there's few, Imam Tawhidi is one of them.

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    Who's "we"?
    "we" is Major and everybody here including you as a moderate muslim. what don't you agree with what i'm saying there?
    you should start by supporting Maajid Nawaz's and Imam Tawhidi's efforts for reformations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    briefly. I have stuff to do.
    you're ignoring and doing mental gymnastics to refute many verses.
    and take a look at the mainstream interpretations already written by the best hermeneutists.
    ......But you haven't posted a single verse

    Quote Originally Posted by Javatar View Post
    ridiculous.
    you expect a mufti who from birth was brainwashed to memorize then pursue studying to become a mufti to reform?
    but there's few, Imam Tawhidi is one of them.


    "we" is Major and everybody here including you as a moderate muslim. what don't you agree with what i'm saying there?
    you should start by supporting Maajid Nawaz's and Imam Tawhidi's efforts for reformations.
    I don't agree because I have the ability to look at the scripture myself and formulate own opinion. You trying to enforce a belief (esp with no evidence) gets u nowhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleem View Post
    ......But you haven't posted a single verse
    dude, Let me Google that for you.
    here's the top result. are you gonna refute all 109 of them?
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