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    We need to prove two things before we can say whether the US attacks were justified.
    1. The use of United Nations-banned chemical weapons were used in Syria.
    2. The Syrian government either used, distributed, or funded these weapons.


    Until we have all the evidence, these are nothing but allegations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Slee View Post
    I don't think that the government of Syria would use chemical weapons against rebels. They're winning terrain without it.
    It's been a essentially stalemate in Syria for a long time. Without increased intervention from America or Russia it's going to remain that way. Assad isn't going to lose at this point, but neither will he regain control of the entire country in the near future.

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    This is just my opinion, but I believe all this leads back to countries like USA, middle-east has strong oil reserves, USA needs a good reason to get this without simply just 'stealing it'. Although, I still don't think the Syrian Government themselves actually done the chemical attack, as Slee mentioned. Then again, I'm no politican, so what I'm saying is rather an opinion than what is PERHAPS true.
    America doesn't really need mena oil at all. The conspiracy theory that American intervention in the middle-east is for oil is about private enterprise that could somehow benefit from destabilisation in the middle-east influencing American politicians. As a country the cons far outweigh the pros. The Syrian civil war wasn't directly caused by America anyway, but rather Assads breathtaking stupidity in handling the Arab Spring in Syria.

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    Rofl, Sadam is way different from Assad. If you refer to the previous chemical attack where the Syrian government was accused of, I believe that one is false too. The target locations of the chemical attacks is also not logical.
    What gives you this idea? Looking at maps of territorial control, the airfield and target, and weather conditions, the chem attack seems reasonably located -- eg. deep enough within rebel territory with weak enough winds that there'd be no risk of contaminating government controlled territory, well within practical reach of aircraft. Russia confirmed an attack on the city anyway - saying they hit rebel chem stores. Sarin isn't a particularly easy chem weapon to make though so that's a bit of a stretch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Slee View Post
    Rofl, Sadam is way different from Assad. If you refer to the previous chemical attack where the Syrian government was accused of, I believe that one is false too. The target locations of the chemical attacks is also not logical.
    I'm pretty sure Sadam gassed civillians near constantly before the gulf war. Perhaps after too. I think you're suggesting these are false flag attacks, or are believing the story that they were the rebels chemicals. Why do you think that makes any sense? What isn't logical about the location of the attacks? It was rebel held territory. Why wouldn't Assad want to get rid of them? I'm a pretty skeptical guy when it comes to believing the government, but all the evidence supports that Assad had not given up all of his chemical weapons and in fact used them against innocent civillians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songoty View Post
    I'm pretty sure Sadam gassed civillians near constantly before the gulf war. Perhaps after too. I think you're suggesting these are false flag attacks, or are believing the story that they were the rebels chemicals. Why do you think that makes any sense? What isn't logical about the location of the attacks? It was rebel held territory. Why wouldn't Assad want to get rid of them? I'm a pretty skeptical guy when it comes to believing the government, but all the evidence supports that Assad had not given up all of his chemical weapons and in fact used them against innocent civillians.
    Quote Originally Posted by bosslad View Post
    It's been a essentially stalemate in Syria for a long time. Without increased intervention from America or Russia it's going to remain that way. Assad isn't going to lose at this point, but neither will he regain control of the entire country in the near future.



    America doesn't really need mena oil at all. The conspiracy theory that American intervention in the middle-east is for oil is about private enterprise that could somehow benefit from destabilisation in the middle-east influencing American politicians. As a country the cons far outweigh the pros. The Syrian civil war wasn't directly caused by America anyway, but rather Assads breathtaking stupidity in handling the Arab Spring in Syria.



    What gives you this idea? Looking at maps of territorial control, the airfield and target, and weather conditions, the chem attack seems reasonably located -- eg. deep enough within rebel territory with weak enough winds that there'd be no risk of contaminating government controlled territory, well within practical reach of aircraft. Russia confirmed an attack on the city anyway - saying they hit rebel chem stores. Sarin isn't a particularly easy chem weapon to make though so that's a bit of a stretch.
    That's a good point, I haven't checked the weather conditions.

    My theory was, that Khan Shaykhun (the place where there chemical attack took place) is a small town, indeed held by rebels. From what I know, the terrain around that place is in hands of the government. A chemical gas attack by the government while the gas can end in government terrain and harm others is not very logical in my point of view.

    Looks like I still have some homework todo. Totally forgot the weather part.

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    This still raises another question. The government can easily control Khan Shaykhun without chemical attacks. I still see no reason to fire a chemical attack in that area. Why would they do it?
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    All you know about other countries is hearsay, dogma, and from the media.

    Oh yea, teach syria to not to attack syria by attacking syria. Wow. Central bank to be implemented.
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    No proof that the Syrian Arab Government did it, just allegations.
    Right now what the US is doing is destroying the military force that is preventing ISIS from expanding. Once you destroy the Syrian army, ISIS will walk in and take Damascus. Just like how ISIS took control of a large portion of Iraq, Libya and Yemen. Once you create Chaos, it lets them roam for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexter Morgan View Post
    All you know about other countries is hearsay, dogma, and from the media.

    Oh yea, teach syria to not to attack syria by attacking syria. Wow. Central bank to be implemented.
    You conspiracy theorists and central bank implementation. Go take a basic econ 101 course, and learn what the central banks provide for the world. Better yet before you get triggered, go look at aliens on YouTube in Antartica; you'll probably believe it.

    OT: This will be interesting to see what happens moving forward. This looks bad on Putin, since Russia led the collation to remove chemical weapons in Syria. Now I'm wondering if Assad is going to go cry to Putin and ask for help.
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    I live in USA and we directed our missiles at the shit they were using not the barracks. If we would have just wiped the barracks it would be WW3.

    Take note Trump was meeting with the Chinese, it also may have been a statement to them as well as North Korea.
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    Its sad
    ): hope there was peace xd
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    I also think that we have to thank Russia for not responding militarily on the air strike of America, cuz else we would've had 200% WW3 now.

    Besides that, let's give a chance to the president of Syria for an explanation:

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